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Dear All,
I also forgot to mention that here in Queensland
there is a Q health policy that you have to have access to at least 3 sides of
the pool for labouring/birthing women. The baths in the birth suites in
the RWH Brisbane have been vetoed for use because of this policy from Q
health, however, because we use round, deeper pools in the Birth Centre we have
a greater access than the corner baths and so they couldn't use this excuse when
they banned the use of the pools in the birth suite. If anyone in
Queensland hosptials are thinking of adding a birth pool please take this issue
into consideration. Even if you opt for the corner baths remember to give
at least a three side access and lets face it on a corner bath it all
around.
I also find the deep round pools we use are great
for bouyancy as they are by description far deeper than the corner baths
available to my knowledge. We have 2 steps and a large landing on one side
for ease of access too. We had to provide a bed trolley that could lever
to the edge and to the level of the bath so (if necessary) we could then
get the mother out easily if she was unable to exit herself. To date there
has never been a problem with a mother unable to exit the bath by
herself. This was never a problem with any of the home births I have
attended either, but it makes the health and safety people in the hospital
happy. Mind you this is the lot that took 3 months and 12 people meetings
for them to develop a policy on how how to just clean the bath after we had
been cleaning it quite successfully for the previous 5 years with any infection
problems.
Regards
Anne Clarke
Birth Centre, Brisbane
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 12:12
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water bath
preferences
How interesting that we all have
different views on the pool suitable for birthing !
Does this mean MW as a group are
just a contrary bunch ?
Everyone has their own set of
experiences I guess.
I do agree with Anne about the
spas being an infection control nightmare & with Mary about the not
hitting heads on walls when leaning over the sides, plus space to spread
knees, but with the larger inbuilt domestic spas seats & ledges can be
very restful. I too have noticed that the rectangular shape encourages women
to lie down unless you actively promote hands & knees lengthways in tub
& then there's not much room for her partner.
At the homebirths I attend we
use all sorts & they all work well as long as the water is deep enough,
warm enough & roomy enough.Paddling pools are great.
The concept of a bath/pool in
the middle of a room & exposed on 3 sides reminds me of being in a fish
bowl, not somewhere cosy, dark, snug & private to birth in, but open
to view...........yuk !! Unless the room was really small
& nesty (then it'd be an OH&S problem) it's a bit like being
on public display & all for the attendants benefit, not the clients.
Remember those Russian videos of the waterbirths in a transparent tub where
the OB "plays" with the baby under the water & the mother is almost
just an onlooker ? I get really angry every time I see that video even
though I know they are demonstrating a point, I feel he takes over her birth
& 'owns her baby' ! Rant over !!
I (can't recall seeing
many mammals birthing in a 'public' arena now that I come to think
of it) !
Brenda
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 11:09
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water
bath preferences
Dear Jenny,
Don't get the corner one's get a round one
without spa as the reserviour is a cleaning nightmare.
Ring the Birth Centre on Monday after 1 pm and
talk to Marg Fien as she ordered the one's in the Birth Centre so she can
give you the low down on manufacturers, price etc
Regards
Anne Clarke
Midwife
Birth Centre, Brisbane
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005
12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: water
bath preferences
I was wanting some assistance to find out the
best type of baths for our birthing suites. I am working in rural
queensland and we do have severe water restrictions at present and have
been hearing a lot about smaller corner baths. I would love some
ideas on costs, manufacturers, and benefits from your experience with
tubs.. thanks Jenni
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