Speaking of head shape - would you believe this... my family went out shopping not long after my son's birth and a woman waiting in line at the checkout grabbed my arm and said, 'Wow, what a lovely shaped head he has! Did you have a caesarian?' I picked my jaw up from the floor, managed a 'no' and left hubby to pick-up the bill... still gives me the irates to this day!
Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Director, www.bellybelly.com.au & www.toys4tikes.com.au Gentle Solutions For Conception, Pregnancy, Birth & Baby Australian Little Tikes Specialists -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinky McKay Sent: Tuesday, 4 October 2005 7:35 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep i Jo - there are actually studies relating back sleeping and increased incidence of plagiocephaly - will see if I can find them quickly and send to you. Pinky ----- Original Message ----- From: "jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep > Hi all, > > Was wondering if anyone else thinks that there's a link between the > increase > of plagiocephaly due to the SIDS idea of sleeping baby on back at the > bottom > of the cot? > > Jo > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pinky McKay > Sent: Monday, 3 October 2005 9:46 AM > To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] safetsleep > > Hi Miriam, > I have done the tiki tour - impressed and would definitely like to mention > safetsleep as an option in my book. I do appreciate all the work you are > doing and can see some great uses for safetsleep but also have some > questions: > > 1) I would be really concerned that some parents would use Safetsleep as a > 'restraint'. But I guess if that were the case, the same thinking would > mean > > that they would not have grasped whatever gentle/ respectful info I had > written in the first place so were still coming from a 'convenient baby' / > baby as object to be trained mentality. ie -I personally would hate to > see > such a product used to prevent a toddler from getting of of bed- I have > read > > in at least one book and heard from a MB unit where the treatment for > toddlers who dont stay in bed is to remove the lightbulb and lock the > door - > > although I highly doubt you would approve of this either. > > 2) I am pleased to see that the babies in the letters on your site who had > plagiocephaly also received physio -I have concerns that things like > helmets > > on bubs only 'cosmetically' correct the symtoms (ie flat head) not the > causes ie the underlying reasons for torticolus/ positional turns ( > retained > > reflexes ? neurology ? tight muscles). I know of several parents here > who > have had feeding difficulties with such bubs ( ie uncomfortable feeding > from > > one side/ refusal on one side) who have been treated either by a cranial > osteopath or a paediatric chiro and when this has been corrected, then > these > > bubs are content to change sides etc (ie the "problem" is fixed not just > the > > symptom - ie flat head). > > My own youngest child is regularly treated by a chiro ( initially because > of > > dyslexia which improved remarkably). At the first visit it was found that > he > > still had some early reflexes present and the chiro commented - "he would > have had difficulty breastfeeding?" My response was that as he was my 5th > child he wouldnt have had any difficulties - whether this meant holding > him > upside down if necessary" of course i didnt do any such thing but > certainly > would have compensated for any difficulty by altering feeding positions > rather than seeking a cause because at the time i wasnt aware that 'the > cause' ie a neurological problem/ retained reflexes could be involved. > > Incidentally, he didnt/ doesn't have a flat head - he coslept so would > have > been side sleeping / changing sides perfectly safely and naturally, > anyway. > (perhaps reinforcing my point that while symptoms can be corrected, this > doesnt necessarily mean the child is 'fixed') > > However, I do have to acknowledge that this isnt every parent's choice and > also that sadly, infant sleep is fraught with fear -Im amazed by comments > to > > the mother in the testimonial (on your site) by her plunket nurse re the > danger of side sleeping - poor mums. > > Are you in Australia or Auckland? > I will send the handouts. > Pinky > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Safetsleep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2005 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman > > >> pinky >> i hv a very keen interest to meet up with you at some stage...... >> .from what i have heard and read about you our philosophies are very >> similar. My background being mainly nursing, parenting, counselling, >> community work and nearly 20 years facilitating positive parenting >> workshops ,confidence building for women, trust building, sexuality /drug >> and alcohol awareness and other educationaly empowering issues ..... >> 29 yrs ago for my eldest son, and since then subsequent children, i >> happen to have designed a special sleepwrap which allows all natural >> movement depending on the age and stage of the baby, except those >> movements which could cause harm eg creeping and postional asphyxia, >> standing, climbing , falling, rolling off beds,helping to prevent and >> correct positional plagiocephaly (flat/deformed heads) and seems to >> provde > >> a sence of security with minimal restriction ( far less even than total >> swaddling)...mothers report babies sleeping better/longer/more >> peacefullyand for them a huge feeling of peace of mind >> 13 years ago initial trials spanned 6 months, involved over 300 babies, >> 600 parents and 15 clinicians from various fields within the medical >> profession (no mean feat as you will all know) >> since then consistent 20-25% of all first-time babies in nz are >> reached...several countries including european countries have received >> the > >> product and positive parenting philosophy that accompanies it very >> well.... with the enthusiasm and skill of one of my son's the product is >> just starting in the uk........ >> .hospital clinical trials were completed 2 yrs ago under the guidance of >> a > >> Canadian cranio-facial plastic surgeon, who was/is concerned with the 20% >> (!) of babies who do not respond to alternate head turning nor any of the >> interventions currently advocated and who will remain with permanently >> different degrees of deformed heads!.... >> copy of the published study on the sleepwrap is on www.safetsleep.com >> under 'heading 'medical facts' >> i have presented 3 medical papers at international level .....few details >> on the 'About Us' page ....more info avail., >> there is also a live wee video which takes aprox 2 mins to down load >> about 40% of my work over the past 13 years has really amounted to a >> community service in terms of education and am exhausted but elated that >> in the well over 150,000 babies who have used my sleepwrap ( auditable) >> we > >> have not had one reported 'cot death', or accident >> the nzcom and individual midwives have been hugly objectively supportive >> of the concept >> i would love to discuss 'sleep' aspects with you sometime and sincerely >> hope you can find some time to tiki-tour the website mentioned above >> everything in my literature is based on national and international >> stats...and published data....all evidence-based >> >> would welcome dialogue with anyone who is interested and a educational >> resource pack is avail., >> >> warm regards >> miriam rutherford >> mother/educator/designer/md >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Pinky McKay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> >> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 1:51 PM >> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman >> >> >>> thanks Janet - Brenda and I have "made up" and are speaking civilly to >>> each other re the dilemma of confused identity and schedules versus >>> mother support. >>> >>> I am currently writing a new book on infant sleep - all sleep stories/ >>> memories/ anecdotes - welcome. >>> >>> Better clarify - I will not be advocating parent directed feeding, >>> controlled crying or leaving babies to cry it out. >>> >>> please email me offline if you want to share >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Pinky >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Janet Fraser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> >>> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 10:10 AM >>> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman >>> >>> >>>> Hear hear! >>>> : ) >>>> J >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Abby and Toby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: <ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au> >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:44 PM >>>> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Pinky McKay - an amazing woman >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Just thought I would let everyone know that there is no way Pinky >>>>> would >>>> ever >>>>> be in agreement with the Ezzo's and their teachings. In fact Pinky >>>>> spends >>>>> quite a lot of time with parents difusing the terrible belief systems >>>>> they >>>>> have, that were put in place by such people as the Ezzo's, Tizzie Hall >>>>> and >>>>> Gina Ford. Pinky's books are wonderful as a tool against such >>>>> teachings. >>>>> They encourage parents to follow their instincts, trust in themselves >>>>> and >>>>> also give great practical advice when needed. >>>>> >>>>> I have met Pinky online and in real life and heard her >>>>> speak........she > >>>>> is >>>>> one of the best and most passionate speakers I have ever heard. Check >>>>> out >>>>> her site and read her books they are really gentle and wonderful. >>>>> http://www.pinky-mychild.com/ >>>>> >>>>> I wonder Brenda if you were thinking of Tizzie Hall. She is a shocker >>>>> and >>>>> her attitude is terrible towards babies and children. She makes heaps >>>>> of >>>>> money out of really bad advice. But I won't get on to the Tizzie >>>>> subject >>>> it >>>>> makes me dizzie! lol! >>>>> >>>>> Love Abby >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >>>>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >>>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. >>> >>> -- >>> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >>> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. >>> >> >> >> -- >> This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. >> Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. 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