Completely respect everyone's decision to become educated in whichever way they feel best for them...but I stand by my conviction that midwifery needs to stand alone. Mental health nursing is exactly that, a specialty within nursing, we are not midwifery nurses, and so I think we need to be specific about that in our legislation, our education, and our profession.
I'm a 'nurse/midwife' too, but bring on the separate register, as I see myself as a midwife, and will happily only register as such (I'm actually a mental health trained nurse too, but will happily not register as such when I can). In the meantime, I'll continue to register with a board that is largely irrelevant to my work, and belong to a union (the only one that will represent me) that belongs to a profession I don't work in. That's how it is at the moment, but things will change... Cheers Tania -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sharon Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2006 8:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: (Re: [ozmidwifery] de midwife course in wa i also have no disrespect for anyone wanting to do midwifery either way. However i firmly belive that by doing the one year reg nurse course it assists in topping up for want of a better word the mid qualification not to mention that nursing degree goes into more detail some aspects that mid does not. although i am doing the one year degree for nursing i do not envisage ever having to use that degree so i look at it the other way in that iam hanging my nursing degree on a midwifery degree. not the other way around. there are many great de midwives that the university have graduated and mid has and is comming into its own as a stand alone profession as it should rightly so do however if you want to build upon your knowledge and do mental health which in my opinion is a assistance toward midwifery you cannot do this unless you have the magical rn degree as well. in all as midwives we need to be open minded in acceptance of what other people choose to continue their educaton with, i consider myself to be a midwife first then a nurse , when i get my degree. cheers sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tania Smallwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] de midwife course in wa > With you all the way on this one Jennifairy... > > If midwifery is EVER going to come out of the shadow of nursing, and stand > up and be counted as a profession in it's own right, we need to stop the > one > year cross over from nursing to midwifery altogether. No disrespect to > all > my wonderful nurse/midwife friends and colleagues - I am one too! I just > see that we need to move away from making midwifery a tack on thing from > nursing, as it has always been seen (that extra 'certificate' for you to > hang your hat on...) and welcome nurses, Drs, dentists, florists, vets, > chiropractors, and anyone else who wants to be a part of this sterling > profession, with the same open arms. That way, we can be Midwives, and > choose to become nurses later if that turns us on too, but do the extra > time > there to, to give that profession the respect it so rightfully deserves, > as > a completely separate profession in it's own right too... > > Just my thoughts... > > Tania > RM in private practice > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jennifairy > Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2006 6:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] de midwife course in wa > > sharon wrote: > >> thats right i have done three year mid and now doing one yar nursing >> over 2 years while working as a reg midwife so i have a double degree. >> i belive that it should be 4 years and finish with a double degree. >> regards sharon >> > Yeah, personal preference again. > I did the 3 year BMid in SA, & if Id *had* to do the extra year to add > nursing I prolly would have looked elsewhere (or written even more > letters to have it changed). The problem with a 'double degree' is that > it serves to maintain the fallacy that midwifery is not a distinct > profession, that nursing has to be in there somewhere. If we are going > to have double degrees with midwifery involved then I would prefer the > 'other' degree was political science, or business studies, or something > that teaches one how to set up sustainable community structures. > Something that moves midwifery out of the mindset of a sub-species of > nursing, anyway. > Just my thorts > cheers > -- > > Jennifairy Gillett RM > > Midwife in Private Practice > > Women's Health Teaching Associate > > ITShare volunteer -- Santos Project Co-ordinator > ITShare SA Inc - http://itshare.org.au/ > ITShare SA provides computer systems to individuals & groups, created > from donated hardware and opensource software > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 12/04/2006 > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 12/04/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/310 - Release Date: 12/04/2006 > > > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. 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