We have a big Asian population from  a wide range of cultures and I've seen so many variations of the chicken and ginger soup used by different Asian cultures that I have no hesitation in recommending it to mothers with a willing mother/auntie in the background who will cook up a batch. It is amazing how effective this is at increasing milk supply
 
Alesa
 
Alesa Koziol
Clinical Midwifery Educator
Melbourne
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Ward
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 11:41 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] weight loss

I had a Chinese woman tell me about her chicken and ginger soup that she swears by for abundant milk supply.(chicken soup can be pretty fatty). The Asians have a reasonable level of fat in their diet, especially when feeding.  I mentioned dairy because we are told to stick to the low fat, especially dairy.  Sue said the baby is having good, wet nappies, I agree with the supply line in preference to bottles, having used one myself for 4 months. Maureen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Barbara Glare & Chris Bright
Sent: Thursday, 25 May 2006 8:10 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] weight loss

Hi,
 
This is getting off the track in of the story..  The role of diet is interesting.  I wonder how the Chinese manage - no walls of dairy cabinets in Chinese supermarkets.
 
Re the breastfeeding, it still sounds a bit like not enough milk.  I feel a 2 week old breastfed baby should be having plenty of poos. and some weight gain - not loss.  Lots of mums, using disposables, have a tough time working our how much wee a baby is having.  How much milk was she able to express?  Babies often seem to take more by bottle than they would normally need. at 60mls 3 hrly, that would seem to be more than 1/2 of his normal intake in formula.
 
The first rule is certainly *feed the baby*  But formula feeding such large amounts won't help build up her milk supply.  Is there a plan to increase that? 
 
Barb
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Ward
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] weight loss

He's getting enough fluid, so look at mum's diet. Is she getting enough fat and protein? Even if overweight she should be having full fat dairy. I wouldn't be worried about no poo, but the  weight loss is worrying. How often is he feeding and for how long?  Off hand I'd say he's not getting enough fat.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Susan Cudlipp
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:44 PM
To: midwifery list
Subject: [ozmidwifery] weight loss

Dear wise women
I have been following a client on early discharge whose baby is losing weight. Now about 2 weeks old, I readmitted her on day 5 as bub was lethargic, had not had a bowel movement and had lost weight. She expressed, fed and topped up, bub 'woke up' and put on weight, started opening bowels and generally improved all round, went home again fully breast feeding, seems to have plenty of milk, plenty of wet nappies but again - no poo's, and on last 2 visits had lost weight, 50g then another 40g. Has not regained birth weight yet and does not seem satisfied despite frequent b/f.  I will be seeing her again tomorrow and am frankly puzzled by this scenario. She is on medication herself for epilepsy (low dose Tegretol and another that I can't remember) and has been taking Motilium to boost supply.
Any suggestions/comments?
TIA Sue
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Edmund Burke

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