Hi Lisa,
          The birth center was run by Americans and bulb suctioning was I must admit a bit of a thing with them, don't know why. (they also put Erythromycin into all the babies eyes within one hour of birth to guard against gonorrheal conjunctivitis, apparently this is required by law in all 50 USA states!)  I only suction now if there is mec or at resus. I did bring back a little suction pot like the one your talking about and its in my kit so I know what you mean, looks like its meant to be disposable, has a non return valve two tubes and holds 20 mls. The brand is argyle, I've looked but I cant find a picture link. They must be lots cheaper than a twin o vac. Julie:)
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Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] ARM at crowning

A twin o vac new costs around $900 and then there is the annual cost of hiring the O2 cylinder which is relatively inexpensive.  
Andrea Quanchi
On 06/06/2006, at 11:41 PM, Lisa Barrett wrote:

Hi, Julie,
 
I am an independent midwife and I use bi manual suction.  I have a suction tube with a little pot and none returnable valve, I suck on end and the other goes into the baby's mouth.  I'm from Wales and this was common practice at home in the community and in theatre where there was no wall suction.  That's quite a recent addition to some establishments.  Do you know how expensive a twinivac is!!!!!
 
Saying all that I hardly ever use it.  It has no foundation to be of any  benefit.  Born in the Caul though I could see it may help a lot.
Lisa
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Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] ARM at crowning

Hi all,
        I worked at a birth center in the Philippines last year where there was no intervention in labour including ARM, most women had a srom shortly before the birth of the head and others who had a srom early in labour often had less than perfect fetal positioning associated with this. There was often a rather exiting time where you hold a towel as the head is crowning with bulging membranes at the introitus awaiting  an almighty splash with the next contraction. We used a a bulb syringe on these babies as they were a bit "wet" and gurgley when they came out. The traditional birth attendants told me that they suction with their own mouths!  A few babies, maybe five percent were born in the caul, they looked like little bank robbers with stockings over their heads.  I particularly remember one who drew the membranes into his mouth gasping as I was frantically trying to break them with my hands. Not surprisingly these babys seemed to have particually tough membranes. As far as controlling the head went, I cant remember it being a problem as hands were poised most of the time and we had fairly good perineal outcomes.
Hope this helps, Julie:)
 
 
 


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