There is some research that is quoted every now and again to support the theory that delayed cord clamping results in raised SBR levels but this was a study done when the mother had received a bolus of syntometrine (or syntocinon) for third stage.  Sorry can’t remember the name of this or where to get a copy of the study.

 

Christine

 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Diane Gardner
Sent: 25 July 2006 20:04
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Blood cells and placenta?!

 

Here is a site to go to that is very informative about cord clamping. www.cordclamp.com

 

There is no reliable research that proves babies being more suseptible to jaundice if they receive all their cord blood. Also the lower lobes of the lungs do not inflate until after birth so extra blood is needed to do that otherwise where is it taken from. Nature designed it perfectly. So are we saying that nature was wrong in its design that has birthed babies for thousands of years. Who has it wrong? I remember once that Dr Spock once had all the answers too. Hmmmmmm

 

The cord contains up to 150mls of blood, where do you think it was designed to go? Whether the baby is inutero with the placenta at the top or the bottom or holding the baby up or down after birth, the placenta still keeps pumping to the baby.  I have felt pulsing cords with mumns sitting with their babies up on their chests. Blood flows to and from the baby until it starts to breathe then it becomes a one way operation not a two way one.

 

You have to ask yourself why nature designed a cord that connects from a mother to a baby until it breathes on its own and then when it's job becomes defunct it stops supplying oxygen and blood,and the placenta then releases from the uterus. How we have interferred in nature. When a cord is prematurely clampled how is the signal that the baby is breathing on its own transmitted to the placenta? BY AN INJECTION!! No wonder PPH often occurs after a "perfect" birth because the placenta doesn't know its job is completed, there is still pressure from the placenta to the clamp.

 

In the cultures where the cord and placenta is left attached the cord is never clamped. Eventually the cord just shrivels up and releases from the navel.

 

Imagine the poor baby who has suddenly had it's oxygen supply prematurely cut off and is forced to breathe to survive. I have seen some terrible instances of having to rub and jiggle babies to make then breathe or I have also seen babies that born peacefully, gently start to breathe, gradually getting stronger and the cord gradually slowing down and then after some time the cord stops pulsating and is then cut.

 

What have we as this so called advanced society done.

 

Sorry but this is a subject I feel very strongly about and Michel Odent has supported this for more years than I can remember. I know medical science is needed in some instances but not EVERY birth.

 

regards

Diane Gardner

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:49 PM

Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood cells and placenta?!

 

So I can tell her that this is not a worry?

 

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator,
BellyBelly.com.au
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
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From: owner-[email protected] [mailto:owner-[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Ward
Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2006 6:33 PM
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Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Blood cells and placenta?!

 

. In mid training days the belief was that placental blood transfusion following birth would result in increased red blood cells in the baby thereby increasing jaundice levels.  There was also concern if the baby was above the placenta blood would drain from the baby back into it. 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-[email protected] [mailto:owner-[email protected]]On Behalf Of Kelly @ BellyBelly
Sent: Tuesday, 25 July 2006 5:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Blood cells and placenta?!

Has anyone ever heard of this?

 

“My midwife ended up saying as long as the baby is above the placenta; it's ok to let it stop pulsing naturally before clamping it. She said something about too many red (or white!) blood cells entering bubs if bub was below the placenta?”

Best Regards,

Kelly Zantey
Creator,
BellyBelly.com.au
Gentle Solutions From Conception to Parenthood
BellyBelly Birth Support - http://www.bellybelly.com.au/birth-support

 

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