Sally @ home wrote:

Exactly, Shelley.

In practice I do very few VE's as well, relying on all the external signs we, as midwives, use everyday. However, having one's knowledge and experienced completely disregarded is extremely disheartening.

We are organising a forum to try and alter the policy/guideline, but have very little time to prepare...hence the plea for help :o)

Thanks
Sally

The thing about being tuned in to the subtle signals and processes that women invariably go through during labour and birth, is that you have to actually *be there*, spend the time (& I include antenatal 'time' in this too) watching, listening, feeling, smelling, hearing - not something you can do by watching the ctg at the mid station, or by walking into a room to observe a woman for 3 minutes to make decisions about what is happening for her & her further care.
Prolonged observation beats textbook definitions of 'normality' any day.
I get really pissed off when I consider that these obstetric definitions ( & hence protocols) have been created largely by people who have *never* provided labour and birth care for women who they have a pregnancy-long relationship with, and who attend for the *whole labour* - if that was the case we may have much broader definitions of what is 'normal'. I personally think its a huge violation of women to even have a protocol which legitimises time-based (ie 4 hourly) vaginal examinations, purely because it is 'quicker and easier' to determine progress of labour. Sally I would be asking your obstetricians - if they had a choice between assessing labour progress by observation alone, or assessing labour progress by inserting their fingers into a womans vagina, what would they choose? I would also be inviting them to 'witness' an entire labour where VE's were not routine, & were not done at all unless there was some valid evidence-based reason to do so. Its not good enough for the 'medical establishment' (of which we as midwives are a part) to dismiss knowledge that comes from experiences they will not put themselves in the way of.
cheers
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Jennifairy Gillett RM

Midwife in Private Practice

Women’s Health Teaching Associate

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