Lisa, I am sure you have said what many of us think. I have
worked like that for years and one gets sick of the tightrope
all of the time. I am so glad that I am now working without drs,
it is just protocols now. 
Cheers
Judy

--- Lisa Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Sue,
> 
> Thanks for sharing the information.  Your right it is almost
> impossible to avoid active intervention when birthing in the
> system even with great midwives like yourself supporting. 
> Part of the problem appears to be the lack of belief that
> waiting and doing nothing is going to work.  Some multips
> don't have full on labour until transition.  It is possible
> that when the head sits firmly on the cervix the contractions
> will pick up. I have not ever had to wait 12/15 mins from
> birth of a head to birth of a body.
> Physiology tells us that the uterus clamps down immediately
> after birth.  I don't think you'd wait another 12/15 mins for
> the uterus to contract after the birth and that's if you don't
> do an active third stage.
> 
> It is not so hard to do other things when sytno drip isn't an
> option and you have no-one but yourself and the woman to trust
> in ( no idiot specialist in complications when your the
> specialist in the normal I mean).
> I think I have the easy job when it comes to midwifery because
> I know I'm the specialist in normal and I don't answer to
> anyone on that score.  Politics with birthing as far out of
> the system as I do is another thing altogether but in the
> birth space with women it isn't an issue.  I chose to work
> like this because it's less  waring than having to say F**k
> off to drs all the time.
> 
> Lisa Barrett
> 
>  
> 



                
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