Re: [ozmidwifery] lotus placenta

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Yes it is interesting. I was pleasantly suprised how easy it was to collect the blood an hour after birth. I had been worried about it before hand and asking everyone i could about it. Thanks by the way to all the wonderful midwives I questioned oer this issue in Geelong at the HB conference. The surrounding blood collected in the dish around the placenta, which drained from the maternal side congealed nicely as you would expect but the veins of the placenta were lovely and plump having not been prematurely detached. Wendy ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Cudlipp To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] lotus placenta I'm finding this really interesting because in actively managed 3rd stages (in my experience) it is hard to get blood from a placenta this long afterwards, I find it clots in the vessels if I leave it too long, I wouldn't fancy the chances of collecting it an hour or more later. Is there some reason why this doesn't happen with physiological 3rd stages, which are of course the best way to go for Rh-ve women, or is this specific to Lotus births, I mean, does the fact that the placenta remains attached cause it to take longer to congeal? Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrea Bilcliff To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] lotus placenta Hi Mary,   In the lotus births I have been at with Rh negative women so far, I haven't had any problems collecting enough blood with a needle & syringe. The pathology services have always been able to perform the tests with the amount I've been able to put in a 4 ml tube.   Hope that helps, Andrea Bilcliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Murphy To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2006 9:55 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] lotus placenta Hello wise women, I need advice about a lotus birth, (not new to me) who is also Rh neg.  I need to get enough blood for group and coombes.  In your experience, is there sufficient blood in the placental vessels after a physiological 3rd stge ?  What is the best way to hndle this?  I have had lots of Lotus Placentae but not with RH neg. women.  Thanks, MM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/530 - Release Date: 11/11/2006 6:53 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.3/531 - Release Date: 11/12/2006