I don't agree, I have done it this way many times.  Can you point me to some
doucmentation that states otherwise, I'd love to know?  From what I
understand, the execution of the config wizard updates the database schema
(among some other bits and bobs), but why would executing them linearly one
after the other cause an issue?  It would be pretty much the same as
installing and configuring a WSS box, patching it to SP2, installing MOSS
over the top and installing SP2 - right? Wrong?  After the MOSS SP2 (which
probably doesnt even modify the schema, as most of these would be done in
the core SP2 on wss), it probably just updates the assemblies.  Even if it
did do another upgrade on the schema, it should know how to upgrade from WSS
SP2 -> MOSS SP2.  Why would it cause an issue?

Just read this as well, though:

*"Remember to run either the SharePoint Configuration Wizard or Psconfig.exe
at the command prompt on every server in your farm to complete the update.
You are not required to run the SharePoint Configuration Wizard or Psconfig
between each step in the sequence. You can wait until all updates are
installed on a given server before you run the SharePoint Configuration
Wizard or PSconfig. "*
Can you confirm?  Would love to know some facts on this one.  Seems to be a
black, hazzy art form where everyone has their own different oppinions.  Can
you forward it onto the MVP mailing list?

Matt

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Daniel Brown <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Incorrect.
>
>
>
> Its WSS->MOSS->Config Wizard
>
>
>
> You don’t run the config wizard after you install the WSS update.
>
>
>
> Running the config wizard after the WSS update WILL cause issues.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Matthew
> Cosier
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:40 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> I would have thought it would be silly to install the MOSS service packs
> before WSS.
>
>
>
> That's kinda like putting the horse before the cart.
>
>
>
> WSS is the foundation - I would have expected that updating WSS first is
> the most logical way forward.  Why on earth would you install the MOSS
> service packs first?
>
> WSS + config wizard/db upgrade + MOSS + config wizard/db
>
> On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Noja, Fadi <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Yep.  As soon as I did the force update, I ran the wizards again and it
> worked.  A lot of people had the same issues.  I put the fix on my blog and
> had hundreds of people messaging me saying it fixed the exact problem.
>
>
>
> I tried to find out what causes it, but could never replicate it.  I did
> once, though that was because someone had modified one of the web.config’s
> for one of the sites and left it as read only.  As soon as I changed it
> back, re-ran the wizard and it fixed the problem.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Turner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:58 AM
>
>
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> Did you Quiesce the farm first?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> *Paul Turner
> **Senior Solution Specialist**
> M:*  0412 748 168  *P:*  08 8238 0912 *F: *08 8234 5966
> *A:* 66 Henley Beach Road, Mile End SA 5031
> *E:** ** [email protected]*   *W:* www.dws.com.au
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Noja, Fadi [
> [email protected]]
>
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:22 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
> Nope.  I think it had something to do with the time it took to install.  It
> was on a 8 server farm.  So from the time I started the upgrade wizard on
> the first one and by the time I reached the second last one (cause you have
> to wait for them all to finish and that’s the one it failed on), it was over
> 4 hours.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Brown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:49 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> Do you know what caused it?
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Noja,
> Fadi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:17 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> It’s simple.  stsadm -o upgrade –forceupgrade
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Brown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:44 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> What caused it?
>
>
>
> What was the resolve for it?
>
>
>
> I have yet to hear of SP1 failing due to just being installed. But it’s not
> out of the realm of possibility.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Noja,
> Fadi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:13 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> Not always.  I had the issue and I did it in the right order.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Brown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:41 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> From what I read and experienced, this was due to people installing the
> MOSS SP1 prior to installing WSS SP1.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Noja,
> Fadi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:06 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> No, with sp1 a lot of people experienced the wizard failing on them after
> the sp install.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Brown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:35 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> Well id hope there be no issue installing them.. otherwise it be pointless
> releasing them :P
>
>
>
> Any issues will generally come from customizations.
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Noja,
> Fadi
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:02 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2 [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
>
>
>
> Just installed them on my dev box.  No issues with the install.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Chris
> Grist
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 9:19 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* RE: Service Pack 2
>
>
>
> If we have moss, do we apply wss then moss or just the moss one?
>
>
>
> Chris Grist
> Technical Officer, ICT Systems
> Education.au Limited
>
>
>
> Level 1, 182 Fullarton Road
> DULWICH SA 5065
>
>
>
> p +61 8 83343291
> f  +61 8 83343211
>
>
>
> e [email protected]
> w www.educationau.edu.au
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel
> Brown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 29 April 2009 8:34 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Service Pack 2
>
>
>
> Just as an FYI, SP2 has been released today.
>
>
>
> Download links are :
>
> MOSS:
> http://www.microsoftcom/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=b7816d90-5fc6-4347-89b0-a80deb27a082<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=b7816d90-5fc6-4347-89b0-a80deb27a082>
>
> WSS:
> http://www.microsoftcom/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=79bada82-c13f-44c1-bdc1-d0447337051b<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=79bada82-c13f-44c1-bdc1-d0447337051b>
>
>
>
> Please use your test environment to make sure all is well before deploying
> to your production environment J
>
>
>
>
>
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