To help keep this conversation focussed on the theme of the list... One of the things that I do like about what you are doing Scott is that you are asking your "customers" about what they want; you do seem to be listening.
For me, MS has become a top-down behemoth that too often seems not to listen. If they did bother to ask - and listen - more often, there's probably some chance that Bing would have more Silverlight in it. Kind Regards, Darren Neimke [email protected] Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 21:21:18 -0700 From: [email protected] Subject: RE: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 To: [email protected] Silverlight puts the Bling in Bing J From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Berry Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 9:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 Wow from Wave to Bing to Silverlight 3, its all happening… Good old RIA bashing…. Lol, just a passing phase, think next gen RIA in Bing will be Silverlight, don’t think they prepped the code in Silverlight prior to Bing release, being a search engine I think the use of Flash or Silverlight can and cant be used in a good way, but either way, whats presented to the user whether Silverlight or Flash doesn’t really matter does it? As long as its usable (But then again the old HD video war who got in first brings back memories. H264). From: Nick Hodge [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 June 2009 1:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 Also note that much of the video on the web is in the proprietary flv format … which is opaque to Silverlight Thankfully, H.264 is coming on youtube + Silverlight 3 … oh, oops, don’t mention the war. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Tuesday, 2 June 2009 1:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 Oh, wait... Bing is not totally without Silverlight goodness. Found some Silverlight islands on the page. Ok, I'm happier now. :) It's hard to find them though... Oh, I think its because its only on the US page. Australia page doesn't have them.(yet) On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Craig Dunn <[email protected]> wrote: The 'map', graph and grid are Flash too :-( http://www.bing.com/travel/flight/flexibleTravel?datelimit2=2009-06-01&depDate2=06/02/2009&passengers2=1&view=map&depPort=PDX&destPort=ORD&mapsubmitBtn2.x=12&mapsubmitBtn2.y=14 (link courtesy of @shanselman) On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Scott Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: Which video playback ? i.e. the “videos” section is based on what site who owns it nominates. For us to go in an hijack these and play them inside Silverlight well there’s a whole set of legal pain that we’d rather avoid. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 6:57 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 While we are on the subject of new releases, I draw your attention to the new Microsoft search site, Bing.com. I'm a little surprised that Silverlight is not being used for video playback, rather Flash. They could have put code in there to check if you have Silverlight and fall back to Flash rather than just use Flash exclusively? Come on! We want Silverlight! :) comments? is this sending the wrong message out? I can totally understand Silverlight is not everywhere yet but what a perfect opportunity to get it everywhere. Give them an option to go with Silverlight and if they say no, then fall back to Flash. cheers, Stephen p.s. Insert <soapbox/> tags above as appropriate. :) On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Tim Heuer <[email protected]> wrote: No you didn't (at least that's my opinion)...but the interwebs are clogged with people agreeing with one person that there is a comparison. I suspect people actually didn't read his article but rather just the titilating headline. I agree that Silverlight could be a client to the wave protocol/communication platform at some point. -th tim heuer | (602) 405-4567 | im: [email protected] blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter: @timheuer ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes [[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 I don’t understand why people are comparing the two? Google Wave = Protocol, client is just the “default” skin if you will. Developers will always game companies like Microsoft, Google, Apple etc if the said solution is popular. Providing a shared protocol for all to tap into is a platform play ☺ Silverlight could be part of that client story? So it’s no different to Google releasing GMAPS tomorrow? Seems a bit weird to compare the two – or did I miss the ball completely on this one? ☺ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Heuer Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:30 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 Ha! I hope people actually read my post deeper…because that’s what I’m saying specifically. Google Wave instantly drew comparisons from an article based on “karma” – which based on drawing comparisons to Silverlight and Wave. I thought that was incorrect myself. Now if people want to debate HTML5 vs. RIA platforms… Cheers, -th Tim Heuer | (602) 405-4567 | im: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> blog: http://timheuer.com/blog/ | twitter: @timheuer<http://twitter.com/timheuer> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven Berry Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 4:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 Either way its great for Scott to keep us on edge…. On a side note Google I/O<http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/05/30/google-wave-forces-out-silverlight-flash-ria-platforms.aspx> Silverlight/Flash killer? Now come on that’ll never be the case …………………. From: Perry Stathopoulos [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, 2 June 2009 9:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 Well that sucks as a comment...unless the smiley is meant as a wink to mean that it's true but you can't say. From: Scott Barnes<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 1:19 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 No comment ☺ -- Scott Barnes Rich Platforms Product Manager Microsoft Corp.<http://www.microsoft.com/> | Blog: http://blogs.msdn.com/msmossyblog | Office: +1 (425) 5382410 X82410 Twitter: twitter.com/mossyblog<http://twitter.com/mossyblog> | MSN: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> P Please consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perry Stathopoulos Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 9:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Silverlight 3 to be released July 10 Ars Technica is reporting that SL3 and Expression Studio 3 are launching July 10. If that is true that great news! http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/05/silverlight-3-and-expression-studio-3-launching-july-10.ars Why isn't there more buzz about this? From what I have seen none of the regular Silverlight bloggers are talking about this. I would think this is a big deal?!? http://silverlight.net/blogs/silverlight/ Can we get some kind of confirmation or denial? Anyone know anything about this? 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