Hi Scott, Lack of transparency about the release date caused a fair amount of consternation at my workplace, but we discussed it and agreed to take the risk that July 10 was just a rumour. As it turns out, the gamble paid off we are all happy. The part I found frustrating was the 'early' July 9 release and spending all day deciphering cryptic tweets and contradictory forum posts about what was released, what worked and what was broken, since each part (sl3 tools, blend, toolkit, ria services, etc) came out at different times without any real fanfare.
Other than that, we had a really good Silverlight 3 day! Tom Beeby [email protected] @tombeeby http://blog.tombeeby.com On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Scott Barnes<[email protected]> wrote: > I know what all are saying (as Barry stated, been in your shoes, got the > tshirt) and it's being debated now with Scott Gu, Marketing Team and folks in > the engineering side. We have the current playbook simply because despite our > v3 status, we're still quit a young product - now that we have a lot of teeth > and maturity behind us, it's now being debated as to whether we need to keep > going down this path - that and I think we've caught Adobe by surprise long > enough now that they've decided to stop the anti-Msft behavior in the press. > > Instead of me preaching to you all on the why we should or shouldn't, how > about this? Let's all put together a pro's and con's list. It will force you > to keep a balanced view but at the same time allow you to push forward why > you think it should change. > > The floor is yours, go. If you're not keen to do this via email, grab me > after each of the preso when I visit your city and talk it out with me more? > As I'll collect this data and take it back home with me to Seattle. > > That also being said, keep in mind the only thing this week that changed was > we officially released the runtime? You've all known about its features etc > since March? So I'm curious to see specifically what changed and why / how it > impacts you? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barry Beattie > Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 4:28 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Happy Silverlight / Expression 3 Day all :) > > I think Scott is fully aware the situation - he was trying to get his > business into a $15,000 Flex 1.5 license only months before Flex2 came out > free... > > so, Scott, remember that pain and don't forget those days - the shoe's on the > other foot now... > > > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Paul Du Bois<[email protected]> wrote: >> Just wanted to second Perry's comment regarding the lack of a clear, >> official roadmap and timeline for the SL3 release. >> >> >> >> We have a major LOB application developed in SL2 that's in production >> with several clients, with heaps of ongoing development happening. >> >> The launch of SL3 was a major concern for us since we could not be >> sure whether or not those prod applications would survive client upgrades to >> SL3. >> >> Thankfully the backwards compatibility with SL2 seems to be excellent, >> but we may not be so lucky with the next SL RTW. >> >> >> >> As developers we understand that sometimes deadlines slip, but really >> any kind of timeframe guidance from MS would be better than none. >> >> Having to scavenge the web for rumors/leaks regarding updates for what >> is now my company's primary technology platform is pretty weak. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 11:59 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: RE: Happy Silverlight / Expression 3 Day all :) >> >> >> >> This has come up a few times and whilst folks may want absolute >> transparency there are those who would use it for competitive >> advantage or to increase criticism further. It's basically a constant >> balancing act between good and evil in many ways :) >> >> >> >> Point is, it's being discussed in depth right now as Pete Brown kicked >> this conversation of a while ago. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: [email protected] >> [[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perry Stathopoulos >> [[email protected]] >> Sent: Friday, 10 July 2009 5:38 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Happy Silverlight / Expression 3 Day all :) >> >> Congrats for the release! >> >> >> >> My only real complaint at this point, is that I would have liked to >> have a better visibility for the release schedule. I have to admit I >> was not expecting the July 10th release. Sure there were hints, but I >> needed a summer release so I didn't focus at all on SL3. I even asked >> the question in this mailing list, when the rumours first appeared. >> >> >> >> For example I like when Tim Hueur posted the roadmap for .NET RIA Services: >> >> http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2009/06/09/ria-services-roadmap-updat >> ed.aspx >> >> >> >> Talk to the community if dates change I think we are quite open and >> understanding as we go through the same stuff. >> >> >> >> Thanks and keep up the good work, >> >> Perry >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Scott Barnes >> >> Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 10:55 AM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Happy Silverlight / Expression 3 Day all :) >> >> >> >> Now you all know why i'm home for a month :) a nice break from lead up >> to launch. >> >> >> >> Anyway, Happy Silverlight / Expression 3 Day :) (Same day as my sons >> birthday w00t). >> >> >> >> Http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight - feedback welcomed on all our >> sites, approach to launch etc as i will be keen to learn from our wins >> and mistakes for SL4. >> >> >> >> Note: >> None of the website(s) or online experiences were handled by me, but >> as of Monday i'll be taking over them, so please please give me raw feedback. >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support >> List address: [email protected] >> Subscribe: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: [email protected] >> List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight >> Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists >> >> ________________________________ >> >> Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support >> List address: [email protected] >> Subscribe: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: [email protected] >> List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight >> Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists >> >> ________________________________ >> Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support >> List address: [email protected] >> Subscribe: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: [email protected] >> List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight >> Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists >> ________________________________ Support procedure: >> https://www.codify.com/lists/support >> List address: [email protected] >> Subscribe: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: [email protected] >> List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight >> Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > Subscribe: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support > List address: [email protected] > Subscribe: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight > Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Support procedure: https://www.codify.com/lists/support List address: [email protected] Subscribe: [email protected] Unsubscribe: [email protected] List FAQ: http://www.codify.com/lists/ozsilverlight Other lists you might want to join: http://www.codify.com/lists
