The hope is that with VS2010 developers will be able to do most things without 
Blend3? But certainly at the moment you're spot on, it would be better to see 3 
full expression licenses in there, but hey 1 is better then none :)

John.
 


Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:51:56 +0800
Subject: Re: websitespark
From: ola.e.karls...@gmail.com
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com

Hi Jorke, 


As I mentioned to you earlier, I think this is a great idea and initiative.


However, and it will be interesting to hear what other people on this list have 
to say on this, I'm really surprised at the licencing of Expression Studio. 


You get 3 Visual Studio licences, 8 server licences and a heap of other goodies 
but only 1 Expression Studio license (not counting Expression Web), also that 
single license is locked down to the "Primary contact" of the company 
(http://www.microsoft.com/web/websitespark/Support.aspx#que8).


The issue with this is that, If you want to do Silverlight development (as most 
of us on this list), you pretty much need both VS and Blend to be efficient. 


I guess you could say that there's not that many Silverlight developers around, 
so one license should be enough, which I guess is fair enough. But if Microsoft 
wants to increase adoption of Silverlight, shouldn't you make the tools easily 
available? Yes true you can do Silverlight development on just Visual Studio, 
but as soon as you want to do any animations or state transitions, you need 
Blend. 


There's also the whole, locking it down to who in the company gets it, I assume 
that in most cases the "Primary contact" will be the owner of the company and 
how often will that person be the Silvelight dev?


Sorry for the rant, and please don't take this the wrong way, as I said, I 
think it's a great initiative! 
And a lot of small web dev shops (including the one I work for) will benefit 
greatly from it. 


I just think the licencing of the Expression should be different ;)


Cheers,
Ola





On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Jorke Odolphi <jor...@microsoft.com> wrote:



As per 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke/archive/2009/09/24/announcing-websitespark-in-australia.aspx
 
I would love to hear your comments.
(apologies if duplicated)
----     
I am VERY excited to announce the launch of a new *SPARK program at Microsoft 
for Australia; WebSiteSpark you’ll see that the gu has already post about this.
 
WebSiteSpark is aimed specifically at those who are developing in the web 
platform and we’re giving them a jumpstart to get started on the Microsoft 
Platform.
The Australian launch of WebSiteSpark will be on the 8th of October at Web 
Directions South – Hope to see you there!
So very simply, here are the Gets and Gives:
What to we give you?
Software licenses that you can use for three years AT NO COST.  Once enrolled, 
you can download and immediately use the following software from Microsoft: 
•3 licenses of Visual Studio 2008 Professional Edition 
•1 license of Expression Studio 3 (which includes Expression Blend, Sketchflow, 
and Web) 
•2 licenses of Expression Web 3 
•4 processor licenses of Windows Web Server 2008 R2 
•4 processor licenses of SQL Server 2008 Web Edition 
•DotNetPanel control panel (enabling easy remote/hosted management of your 
servers) 
The Windows Server and SQL Server licenses can be used for both development and 
production deployment.  You can either self-host the servers on your own, or 
use the licenses with a hoster.  WebsiteSpark makes it easy to find hosters who 
are also enrolled in the program, and who can use your licenses to provide you 
with either dedicated or virtual dedicated servers to host your sites on. 
In addition to software, WebsiteSpark provides partner opportunities to grow 
and build your business  through referrals and product support training.
Who can get WebSiteSpark?
This is really simple:
1.Your company builds web sites and web application on behalf of others. 
2.Your company currently has less than 10 employees. 
If you meet these requirements you can sign up today. As part of the enrollment 
process you can pick a network referral partner such as a hoster or enter a 
code that you have received at an event or from a Microsoftie. Once you have 
that code you can enrol and start downloading the software – If you’re in 
Australia you can send an email to me: jor...@microsoft.com and i’ll hook you 
up – otherwise websp...@microsoft.com .
After 3 years?
You have no obligation to continue using the software just a $100 fee for the 
use of the program. By this time we hope you would have made a decision on 
whether you’re happy to continue to work with Microsoft and be part of the 
Microsoft Partner Network. 
What’s happening in Australia?
The official launch of WebSiteSpark in Australia will be at Web Directions 
South on the 8th of October and from the start we’ve partnered with two of 
Australia’s best hosting companies to provide the network services, Melbourne 
IT (under WebCentral) and Westnet – you’ll see more information around these 
guys as they give WebSiteSpark participants special offers.
 
So as you can see this is an AWESOME initiative – and I’m very excited to be a 
part of this. If you have any questions / comments – please email me: 
jor...@microsoft.com – follow me on twitter: @jorke and follow the 
@websitespark twitter account.
you’ll see some press releases going out today all about this :)
- jorke
 
 
Jorke Odolphi | Web Platform Architect Evangelist | 
http://blogs.technet.com/jorke 
Microsoft Australia | e: jor...@microsoft.com | im: jodol...@hotmail.com|  
twitter.com/jorke 
+61 2 8817 9126 | +61 488717714
 
 
 
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