My thoughts on it all:
* SL is moving too rapidly now, the below is just bad for the ecosystem. Slow the engines down, let people digest what's here today... digestion is needed, humans are slow to onramp, its reality. * SL already suffers from a massive pain about answering "What is Silverlight" worldwide. The quick turnaround just add to confusion. Marketing muscles need to be built. * It's hard to separate bugs from Expression Blend vs. Silverlight. If Expression fails, it's easy to think SL is buggy or vice versa. Point is, pay the tax, spend an entire release cycle stabilizing the platform, bugs and user experience. Now with SL4 is it going to increase confusion or decrease it, and if bug X exists today and is not fixed tomorrow, is that a confidence issue now? or an expected behavior ? * Marketing need to get off their butts and energies more - just because it makes the New York Times, doesn't mean the world knows about it. Simple question, where is a comprehensive list of features for Silverlight found? "tomorrow, today, yesterday" list. Microsoft.com/Silverlight has had 9 months to get its effort together and that eye sore of a site still exists. Take it down and put a coming soon at the very least as it only deprecates interest levels. * On ramping is just a tax level too high to pay for the late majority. I am amazed at the amount of disparate ecosystem that exists today for SL/WPF. It infuriates me at how badly its presented and being on the outside now, it angers me more :) as whilst I do have contacts i can just send emails to for answers directly, the average Joe citizen in SL/WPF has to wade through countless Google searches and "Billy Bobs backwater blog" to find answers. Why is Expression, Silverlight, WPF, WCF etc all spread around into their own isolated websites and pockets of the web? isn't the whole point of Expression/Silverlight/WPF to bring collaboration to the masses - yet there existence counter this point. Answer - various teams territorial politics within is hurting the overall ecosystem. There needs to be a more united front. Convincing the general public of this is easy, convincing the teams to unite, well that's an act of power that nobody in Microsoft really has. In essence, we all suffer while we wait for a victor in this fued. At the pace Silverlight is heading, i give it around 3-5 year shelf life before the next new thing takes over - whether it be by Microsoft or a competitor is entirely the next leap of faith. It's not that the technology is bad, it's just unstable and is producing too many layers of friction these days. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Philip Beadle Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:44 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: RE: Silverlight 4.0 beta We were going to be on the shelves in January but SL 4 has changed that to March now. Regards, Philip Beadle Readify | Principal Consultant Suite 408 Life.Lab Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 417 301 024 | E: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | C: [email protected]<sip:[email protected]> | W: www.readify.net<http://www.readify.net/> The content of this e-mail, including any attachments is a confidential communication between Readify Pty Ltd and the intended addressee and is for the sole use of that intended addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and then delete the message and any attachment(s). [cid:[email protected]]<http://readify.net/about-readify/press/readify-makes-2008-mis-strategic-100-list/> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Price Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 11:32 AM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4.0 beta I am living and breathing it everyday and I'm not up to date with it! When did you get published Philip? I think you'd be an interesting read. ;) On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Winston Pang <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I'm definitely feeling overwhelmed with the continuous roll outs, it's like you need to live and breathe it everyday to be really up to date with it =\ On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Philip Beadle <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I am a book, Mahesh and I have to now update our SL3 book to SL4 ready for release in March when SL 4 gets the drop. :) Regards, Philip Beadle Readify | Principal Consultant Suite 408 Life.Lab Building | 198 Harbour Esplanade | Docklands | VIC 3008 | Australia M: +61 417 301 024 | E: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> | C: [email protected] | W: www.readify.net<http://www.readify.net/> The content of this e-mail, including any attachments is a confidential communication between Readify Pty Ltd and the intended addressee and is for the sole use of that intended addressee. If you are not the intended addressee, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this material is unauthorized and prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error please contact the sender immediately and then delete the message and any attachment(s). [cid:[email protected]]<http://readify.net/about-readify/press/readify-makes-2008-mis-strategic-100-list/> From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Craig Dunn Sent: Monday, 23 November 2009 5:28 PM To: ozSilverlight Subject: Re: Silverlight 4.0 beta >>I can't help but feel overwealmed with their release cycles. :) Imagine if you were a book author! SL4 could be out before these SL3 books reach the shelves... http://twitpic.com/q21be cd On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Stephen Price <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Is anyone playing with the Silverlight 4.0 beta? How come everyone here is so quiet about it? I'm on semi holidays in Canberra and missed the announcement. Thought I would have seen some discussion on it here tho. Shame on you. :p In particular, this new feature has caught my eye... "The .NET Common Runtime (CLR) now enables the same compiled code to be run on the desktop and Silverlight without change." If I read that correctly then I should be able to do normal unit testing (ie using normal test runners such as Resharper, nUnit, TestDriven.net etc). Can anyone confirm that? Some pretty cool new features. I can't help but feel overwealmed with their release cycles. :) cheers, Stephen _______________________________________________ ozsilverlight mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight _______________________________________________ ozsilverlight mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight _______________________________________________ ozsilverlight mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://prdlxvm0001.codify.net/mailman/listinfo/ozsilverlight
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