Peter,

What do you mean by "we might have some more luck if we have a couple of 
volunteers"? Is this about the lack of replies on jdk-dev or have you been told 
so in a private thread?

Cheers,

Mikaël Barbero
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> Le 30 juin 2018 à 13:36, Peter Firmstone <[email protected]> a 
> écrit :
> 
> That's ok, we might have some more luck if we have a couple of volunteers, 
> even if the other was not able to put much time in, strength in numbers so to 
> speak.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Peter.
> 
> On 29/06/2018 6:38 PM, Mikaël Barbero wrote:
>> Thanks Peter for you reply on the JDK mailing list 
>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-dev/2018-June/001510.html
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>>> Le 29 juin 2018 à 08:59, Peter Firmstone <[email protected] 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>>> 
>>> Hi Mikaël,
>>> 
>>> I must have been a little tired when I read this the first time.   I didn't 
>>> realise there was an OpenJDK Java implementation of Pack200.
>>> 
>>> I agree, deprecate the C++ implementation and maintain the standard and 
>>> java implementation.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Peter.
>>> 
>>> On 29/06/2018 8:34 AM, Peter Firmstone wrote:
>>>> I've only ever lightly dabbled in C++ and that was a long time ago (15 
>>>> years).   It's an option if there are C++ capable and willing volunteers.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Peter.
>>>> 
>>>> On 28/06/2018 9:41 PM, Mikaël Barbero wrote:
>>>>> As far as I understand from 
>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-dev/2018-June/001472.html, you 
>>>>> don't necessarily need to start with Harmony implementation as there 
>>>>> already is a full (read pack and unpack) Java implementation of pack200. 
>>>>> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk/jdk/file/2f2af62dfac7/src/java.base/share/classes/com/sun/java/util/jar/pack
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I guess that one proposal to JEP336 could be: deprecate the c++ native 
>>>>> implementation (as this is not used anymore for the JRE) but keep the 
>>>>> spec + Java impl.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then anyone (Peter?) could sign up to maintain it @ openjdk.
>>>>> 
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>> *
>>>>> Mikaël Barbero *
>>>>> *Team Lead - Release Engineering | Eclipse Foundation*
>>>>> 📱 (+33) 642 028 039 | 🐦 @mikbarbero
>>>>> Eclipse Foundation <http://www.eclipse.org/>: The Platform for Open 
>>>>> Innovation and Collaboration
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Le 28 juin 2018 à 13:26, Peter Firmstone <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not currently a committer, though happy to, if invited. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To sum up:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1. The Pack200 clean room implementation written in Java, it can
>>>>>>   compress and decompress java bytecode and pack.gz files, it was a
>>>>>>   module developed as part of Apache Harmony, AL2 licensed.
>>>>>> 2. Oracle owns the Pack200 Standard copyright. 
>>>>>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/10/docs/specs/pack-spec.html
>>>>>> 3. OpenJDK's Pack200 test compatibility kit, is GPL2 with classpath
>>>>>>   exception, (I haven't gone down this road yet, but it's ideal for
>>>>>>   testing compatibility, with some modification for the libraries
>>>>>>   different api).
>>>>>> 4. We won't be implementing any of the Java API's copyrighted by Oracle.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oracle is deprecating the Pack200 standard and its GPL2 licensed 
>>>>>> implementation.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://docs.oracle.com/javase/10/docs/legal/copyright.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28/06/2018 8:54 PM, Mickael Istria wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Daniel Megert 
>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > @Daniel: would you mind contacting EMO Legal asking them about
>>>>>>>  this and sharing the answer here?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  Peter should do that as he knows better what he's exactly doing
>>>>>>>  ;-). Also, I will be away next week and fully booked today.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is Peter a committer on any Eclipse.org <http://Eclipse.org> project? 
>>>>>>> I'm afraid if he sends the request without backup from a committer, it 
>>>>>>> will be rejected as "sorry, we only work for Eclipse.org 
>>>>>>> <http://Eclipse.org> projects, and don't do legal consulting for the 
>>>>>>> whole wide world".
>>>>>>> 
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