Do you have a link to watch or download that documentary Michel? Kevin
On 31 January 2013 15:23, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Anna, > > I resonate with that comment, > > having spent a few years living in, and more interested in, intentional > communities, some with a strong spiritual identity, I had come to the same > conclusion, i.e. that no community without children AND elders, was > 'realistic'. > > However, as the New We documentary shows, there are now multi-gender and > multi-generational communities w hich have subsisted over several decades > and at least two generations > > also of course, monasteries were hierarchical/feudal in their authoritity > structure, > > Michel > > > > 1. Re: The Economics of Monasticism by Nathan Smith (Anna Harris) > 2. Fwd: Be part of the new Edgeryders community: independent, > bottom-up and self-organized. (Kevin Carson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:22:20 +0000 > From: Anna Harris <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] The Economics of Monasticism by Nathan Smith > To: P2P Foundation mailing list <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <CABmBfp65bDRhw3nTB70vKyjBi-v=hW-i4o=1uudnwzsd1zz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > The element left out of this analysis is the fact that monasteries are > single sex establishments which do not have to cope with child rearing. > They are therefor parasitic in the sense that they live off the produce of > the society at large which provides them with the personnel while leaving > them free to indulge in their 'spiritual capital'. > > There is no doubt in my mind that child rearing is the most difficult and > undervalued profession, since it is performed in the main voluntarily by > untrained people out of love, and therefore does not appear to require any > specific investment. Consequently it can be ignored as in the above > discussion as though living in a secular socialist commune could be > compared to living in a monastery. > > I am not decrying the need for a spiritual element in helping to sustain > indivuals and groups. Indeed I think it is essential to bring meaning in > the present situation of imminent 'collapse of civilisation', but it needs > to be able to be interwoven into our everyday lives, not hived off into > separate cloisters which may be beneficial for the inmates but do not > really contribute to the sustenance of the rest of us. > > -- > P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net > > Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens > > #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ > > _______________________________________________ > P2P Foundation - Mailing list > http://www.p2pfoundation.net > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > -- ============================================================================= GPG KEY ============================================================================= If this email is not signed or encrypted its because it is sent via the browser. For private communications I encourage friends to use GPG. If you are interested in learning more about GPG try the Enigmail plugin with the Thuderbird email client. A quick search for '[email protected]' on public keyservers should find my most up to date key. For example try - http://sks.spodhuis.org:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=kev.flanagan%40gmail.com OR http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=kev.flanagan%40gmail.com ============================================================================= _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list http://www.p2pfoundation.net https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation
