2013/2/5 flawer <[email protected]> > > > a) it decides whether the tools for the project are created and by > > whom they are used. > > b) they decide the price of those tools( through lending). > > > > After this analysis, we see that a bank does decide what the economy > > produces. In general, the owner of money controls the economy because > > of those 2 reasons. > > > > Any ruleset thus has to find a way to remove those abilities from > > money. > > if you attach a contract that promises the universalization of access > you are giving more responsability and less rights to ownership (what > money could buy), you won't be able to ask for money for the produced > thing, and should let others use it, etc, so investing in my property is > increasing my responsability, so i'd like to share that charge (peer > property) and i'd like not being owner of too many things (i prefer to > be plain user). the "a)" reason you mention is mentioned to be universal > use by default. > > Yes, this solves a). it is one way to do it.
> i believe a job agency of workers investing their sales/budgets for the > commons can be bought by a rich in $ (and it's an internal matter of us > whether we know how to spend well the $ and if we still need to 'accept' > them), and this not being a power over from the rich in $ towards us. It > is rather a way we should experiment more, we shouldn't have much > competition in the actual 'market' if we corporate so. > There could be accumulation even inside our own currency. Also, it shouldnt be the choice of an individual, or a specific group, it should be a property of the monetary system itself. This is known as the prisoners dilemma<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner's_dilemma#Strategy_for_the_classic_prisoners.27_dilemma> . > > also the clausing of community currencies with the shareful producing > condition, whether they choose the shareful project to be just accesible > for their associates or for the whole world, should help defining their > values and even justify the giving of 'basic incomes' for shareful > producers works in this way (who could buy preferent use/access for > those produced shareful things) (who could require to retain the > ownership of the shareful production or give it to the corp) > > _______________________________________________ > P2P Foundation - Mailing list > http://www.p2pfoundation.net > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation > -- Sincerely yours, Apostolis Xekoukoulotakis
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