i would distinguish the 2 parts, one on the ppl the other with the festival proposals
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Stacco Troncoso <[email protected]>wrote: > Yeah, it's a great story, you should totally adapt it for publication (if > it's ok with Ronan, of course) > > > On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 9:50 PM, Michel Bauwens > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> dear Eimhim, >> >> can we publish this in our p2p blog, as is or in adapted form ? >> >> if you agree, please send it to Kevin for publication, >> >> many many thanks!! this is a great real-life testimony, >> >> Michel >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Eimhin David Shortt < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> An anecdotal account on the usefulness of the peer production license >>> from an experience in the circus/flow/spinning arts. >>> >>> My friend Ronan McLoughlin was member 951 of home of poi back in 2003. >>> Back then the 'jedi' move, the most difficult move that existed, was the >>> 'behind the back weave'. Today there are over 150,000 members of this >>> website and, in true networked learning tradition, the art has complexified >>> accordingly becoming a practical science of geometric shapes, flow >>> patterns, translations, and patterns while developing a global >>> supracultural community of practice with festivals, learning events, shops, >>> jewelery, fashion, and so on. I was a jedi back in 2003, these days, not so >>> much. Ronan on the other hand has maintained his 'jedi' status, and ten >>> years later is one of the 'grandfathers' of this collaborative and emergent >>> art form. >>> >>> In 2010 Ronan invented 'contact poi' after a brief encounter with this >>> potential in a play session with dancer and contact juggler Ed Adams (a.k.a >>> AnimatEd Adams), it was a simple innovation of the structure of the object, >>> using rope, a 100mm contact juggling ball, and a juggling club handle. >>> Because of Ronans 'Jedi' status as a frontline explorer of the >>> possibilities, and the influence he holds in that community by virtue of >>> his creative process, 'Contact Poi' became a thing. >>> >>> The owner of Play Juggling, a maker and online seller of juggling >>> props, contacted Ronan to access the prototypes (admittedly simple) and in >>> a subsequent commication breakdown, went on to mass produce and sell the >>> model with no benefit accrueing to >>> Ronan whatsoever. Ronan is lovely and this doesn't bother him much, but >>> it bothers me. >>> >>> We started together in the practice of object manipulation back in >>> university in Galway in 2003. We have been best of friends since, most >>> people confuse us as brothers though we are not directly related at all. In >>> this last 11 years I have watched him develop this artform, along with many >>> others, and the community, a collaborative community, that built up around >>> this process. I find it unfair and unjust that a specialised distributor >>> should absorb the value created by this man, my friend, and artist, for >>> something that he has created, and popularized by his influence, effort, >>> and creativity. >>> >>> Had I known about the peer production license in 2010 I would have >>> suggested it to him, but even though I was familiar with the P2P movement, >>> and with OS licenses such as the Creative Commons license, I did not fully >>> understand the global context of production, value, and the workings >>> of capital. Now that I understand this somewhat, the application in this >>> case is clear. >>> >>> Ronan lives outside Timoleague, Clonakilty in West Cork, at the moment >>> he is renovating the 'top-cottage' and making nut butters, kombucha, and >>> kefir, while attending a course on food production in a nearby town and >>> works two days a week at the family speciality food and wine shop The >>> Lettercolm Kitchen Project in Clon. I wish for Ronan that he had had his >>> efforts honoured by the application of the Peer Production License as it >>> fits the kind and heartful person that he is. Instead, others profit by his >>> efforts, and he continues creating regardless. Making that which others eat >>> and sustain themselves by. Hopefully he will have more luck with the nut >>> butters and holy well water kombucha and kefir (his house is beside a holy >>> well which provides the house with water). >>> >>> By writing this I intend to show a few things. First of all, this is a >>> clear example of a case for the application of the Peer Production >>> License among the global circus arts community. Secondly, I want to show >>> our own insularity in the P2P Community, that we do not educate and >>> disseminate materials in a way that makes the tools we are developing >>> accessible, by way of understanding, to communities outside of this one. I >>> point out above that I could not see the reason and use-application of the >>> license until I had an adequate understanding of the global function of >>> capital and the predatorial capture of value. >>> >>> In pointing this out again I think it important that we step up our >>> collective efforts this summer to bring people together at FLOSFs >>> : Free/Libre Open Source Festivals. Where we educate eachother and >>> celebrate the value and shared values of our respective collaborative >>> communities. To this end I have begun work with programmer Matthew Hart on >>> the 'Cake Chart', a simple tool to legibalise resource and role >>> distribution in any work. Here the focus of course is OS festival creation. >>> We presented this 'made in three days' mock up at a dance event 'Dance, >>> the body and activism' as part of an appeal to that community to explore >>> open participatory budgeting in an effort to overcome the divisive effects >>> of state funding structures in the arts in Ireland, a process that >>> commodifies and makes a competition of what should be a creative process. ( >>> http://www.bazosoft.com/cake_chart/) >>> >>> Earlier today, in the Resilient Communities facebook group I cam across >>> this article on Open Sourcing Festivals: >>> http://www.pixelache.ac/blog/2014/open-sourcing-festivals/#comment-2324 >>> And this reminded me of an event I created in Pushkar India, where I >>> rented a small hotel and ran a Free CoCreative and Participatory festival. >>> After a short publicisation of the event in Goa at the Indian juggling >>> convention InJuCo in 2011, I opened the doors of the event and began >>> cleaning preparing and decorating the venue. Folk asked me (as I hurriedly >>> lugged, lifted and loaded) "When does it start?". I explained: "This is a >>> 'Free' 'CoCreative' 'Participatory' Festival, it starts when we start it, >>> right now I have to prepare the space." >>> >>> In ten minutes everyone was up and moving and everything subsequently >>> was put into place, the venue was decorated, soundsystem set up, workshop >>> wall built and populated, and from there it began. There were workshops by >>> day, in theatre, dance, choregraphic techniques, darbooka, macarma >>> jewelery, belly dance, contact staff, juggling, freestyle rap, acrobatics, >>> we had camel rides going, free group meals provided in the evenings cooked >>> up by Khalu Ram the Camel Man, musical performance in the evenings with >>> Berlin's Ohr Booten followed by group jam sessions and performance. >>> Friendships were made, people fell in love, later when I moved back to >>> Europe, to Berlin, it happened that I moved to the same street as the Ohr >>> Booten crew who opened many doors for me personally in Berlin, I am sure >>> the same happened for others. My favourite part was the freestyle rap >>> section where a circle of 16 people, none of whom had ever tried it before, >>> were taken through the three stages, the Body (beat) Mind (lyrical metre) >>> and Soul (the full flow) of freestyle rap. We heard voices rap in French, >>> Arabic, Indian, German, English... This was one among many beautiful >>> experiences. >>> >>> It was a very small festival with only 70 to 100 people, alcohol >>> and 'drug' free, over 5 days, but this was the best thing I had ever >>> created, experienced, and enjoyed. The aim was to test the premise that >>> payment makes way for expectation, passive consumption, and that it >>> diminishes creative potential. The test proved beyond doubt that this was >>> the case. People loved it, everyone learned, no one made any money off of >>> anyone else's back, and so everyone participated, learned, and generated >>> immense cultural value. Many of those friendships are still going out there >>> in the world. >>> >>> Imagine, and then lets act on what can be done! >>> >>> >>> http://p2pfoundation.net/Peer_Production_License >>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014, Stacco Troncoso <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Heya Kev, you gotta walk me through the SYMPA-list thing, I really have >>>> no idea on how to use it (much less administer it!) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Michel Bauwens < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> thanks kevin, great initiative >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Kevin Flanagan < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>> Hash: SHA512 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> There has been much discussion on the PPL (Peer Production License) in >>>>>> recent months. To support the growing interest I've created a public >>>>>> discussion list for the PPL. The list can serve both as a place for >>>>>> those using the license and for those new to the license to discuss >>>>>> and share use cases and experiences. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://lists.p2pfoundation.net/wws/admin/ppl.discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> Kevin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>> >>>>>> iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJTOZmbAAoJECAeSbRqWXA+C/EIAIzRqL18WKxW1G9bzPiU7+8q >>>>>> IbJ3+Db/08x4d5jinCCjiMvWCyccxpU4Zo6PfvO4oDBXdmf7EktAmqCLXvwA4P3E >>>>>> xfIRxbToOwP50vVoTNrwW/rNmM7H2NFVAJjx5gxp7LwWKa+gwXdHcI+90CfDkRu4 >>>>>> l2OU5F/gAL3KwtCXz8NyGcY1A9hhzvC6YV0mnMsn3XrfVGMvD2Kn2NO6M+YvqtUK >>>>>> Fd7lTC5CtV4q5BM/d25kOeDBQdFSjFrIoH/rNeEZtHxgxzQ22du+/12taoRJoiEW >>>>>> helQXqJ4uPIdkQAAu9zyXDIRxZKTvlpLu9NB84qXE3iPb4gDJBWnrW+3b1bCArw= >>>>>> =p5iV >>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> *Please note an intrusion wiped out my inbox on February 8; I have no >>>>> record of previous communication, proposals, etc ..* >>>>> >>>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - >>>>> http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>>> >>>>> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >>>>> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>>> >>>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> - Stacco Troncoso <http://about.me/staccotroncoso> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://about.me/eimhin >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Please note an intrusion wiped out my inbox on February 8; I have no >> record of previous communication, proposals, etc ..* >> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> > > > > -- > - Stacco Troncoso <http://about.me/staccotroncoso> > > -- *Please note an intrusion wiped out my inbox on February 8; I have no record of previous communication, proposals, etc ..* P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/
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