Hi June and Denis,

Unfortunately I am in West Yorkshire, not in London, but I would be interested 
to join your discussion. By Skype?

I also believe that child rearing practices form a foundation of later values. 
Many political radicals ignore this aspect of their own behaviour with regard 
to their own families, perhaps as a result of their own experience as a child.

Anna
> On 20 Aug 2014, at 07:16, Denis Postle <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On 19/08/2014 17:09, June Gorman wrote:
>> I understand that internal need created by the initial "innocence" fracture, 
>> taught in sexist, racist. classist societies that want to maintain that 
>> inequitable status quo, but I don't think we can continue to suggest we can 
>> truly get anywhere different if we don't start acknowledging and addressing 
>> it, in all of us who came from those kinds of societies.
>> 
>> It is therefore, and unfortunately because truly difficult work, not at all 
>> peripheral to these essential questions of sustainability and healthiness of 
>> humanity and the planet, but the core issues to address in truly getting to 
>> anywhere socially, economically and emotionally different.
> Yes indeed.
> 
> I have been baffled for some time about how to introduce these concerns and 
> what has been learned, however as you say this is 'tough stuff'.
> 
> Maybe some kind of face to face inquiry node on these topics alongside the 
> list would be valuable. And if we are both in London (and anyone else, I am 
> also based in Brussels) we could perhaps see if that idea had legs. I'll send 
> my contact details off-line.
> 
> A last thought that might nourish anyone looking in, or draw acute 
> scepticism! Few people seem in touch with the long term research of the 
> psychohistorians. A key element of their study of the evolution of childhood 
> and its relation to political realities suggests that the possible politics 
> to some degree tracks changes in child, especially infant, child care. ie 
> that political relationships elvolve in the direction of mirroring how power 
> is experienced via childcare. It could be that the extent to which men are 
> much more involved in childcare and that it seems increasingly more 
> child-centered, might result in a contradiction of patriarchal politics. This 
> has been my personal or local experience. Your thoughts?
> Denis
> 
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