Dear someone?
This is very interestingly said. Indeed I agree that were these deep
social/emotional "group dynamics" as you say, excavated, validated, and worked
on explicitly, the positive power for truly meaningful work and change in our
world, would be amazing. Not least because do this part of the work well, and
understanding it is work that has to be done simultaneously to make meaningful
change in any truly transformative and lasting way, is much more enjoyable and
thus much more appealing for all to join in to do, together.
This relates to what I call the "Human Pleasure Vector of Communication"
(HPVofC) concept. The more you actually do this deeper, essential human work,
the more the actual interaction and communication becomes pleasurable for all
involved, and makes the rest of the "hard work" far more meaningful, rewarding
and literally, more of a joy to do. People do indeed find all sorts of
positive energy that can now, clearing these channels of dissension and pain in
human relations, flow so much more freely and powerfully.
But I didn't see any signature from whom this key understanding, was posted by?
Appreciated it, regardless,
June
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this logic of conscious and unconscious exclusion, is a sort of at the DNA of
hierarchical and institutional power sharing and subordination of self, to
those above you and subordinate those coming later then you.. in the network.
so the social group dynamic flows accordingly. To be honest these dynamics I
find vast of time and energy.. some times i feel it is necessary to work on it,
and sometimes I flee from there. but today, in this conjuncture, it is both
easier and obligation to work on these tendencies. to transform cooperations,
state apparatus, schools, unions, foundations, associations, cooperatives, and
so on, for taking the transition ideas to critical mass level. Why it is easier
is the p2p communication, with conscious team work you can design a strategy to
penetrate and swarm to take down the pillars of any targeted traditional
institutions from inside, outside, top and bottom. so it can be possible to
including those excluded, by bypassing
the cadre of the institution is possible. i like to argue and think that
institutionalization of this kind of un-institutionalization is potentially
releasing invaluable and immeasurable social power that are kept enclosed and
entropized destroying individuals and communities for millennia already.. it is
time to unleash them all..
On 7 feb. 2015, at 12:30, P2P Foundation mailing list
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I agree with you Michel. In my own experience I participate in a sharing group
which styles itself sacred activists. It has no particular agenda. Someone
wanted to join who found climbing the stairs to the meeting room difficult. She
proposed looking for another space with disabled access. Others objected that
they really liked the room where we are meeting. Personally I was shocked that
they would not consider moving to include this person, and I did consider
leaving the group. But I had to accept that to them inclusivity was not a
priority. And I have continued to attend the group which I still find very
rewarding.
At the same time I have maintained a connection with the person who was
excluded, and Inclusivity is still important to me. June and I may continue to
'nudge' while really appreciating and supporting the work that you do, and also
appreciating your responses and the opportunity for this discussion.
(I will try to always remember to sign so that you know who this is from.)
Anna
On 7 Feb 2015, at 09:43, P2P Foundation mailing list
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I am all for an integrative approach, and it is also how I work, but not from a
position of, it's all or nothing, but rather from a position of, how can we
nudge improvements in every integrated aspect ..
we organized the huge ICC and ECC conferences, which in my eyes and those of
many others, where important moments for commons convergence,
but I remember, George Por took a position which I relate to that of Anna, i.e.
he was absolutely convinced that integral faciliation was needed .. the reality
is, no matter how many times we proposed it, the majority just didn't want it,
so you proceed to organize with how people are, not how you want them to be ..
<<anna:
Thanks for this response. What I sense is that it's OK to pursue this topic as
long as it is kept separate from the efforts focussed on political and
theoretical change. Yet my point is that this is absolutely intrinsic to what
p2p is about, the inner and outer aspects of the same thing. Nothing needs to
be added, just allowing what is already there to be revealed, and not putting
energy into resisting it.
Focussing on external achievements, as in the example of Podemos you gave, can
lead to frustration and despair. Unless these feelings are addressed they can
sabotage movement solidarity. Likewise the joy and excitement of sharing and
collaboration are an integral part of our evolving humanity.
?Without developing the inner culture of the human being, we cannot develop a
sustainable future.? E F Schumacher
The inspiring review of Chris Dixon's book by Garces points to the same need to
include a more wholistic consciousness in our relationships. Otto Scharma makes
the same point. 'We might say it this way: The success of our actions as
change-makers does not depend on what we do or how we do it, but on the inner
place from which we operate.'
Anna
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