On 06/09/2015 18:26, Michel Bauwens wrote:
On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:36 PM,
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Michel's Equipotentiality envisages no fixed roles. But it would
seem to me that 'contributory roles' are likely to give rise to
some form of hierarchy, ie extended rights based on a person's
contribution. Also I see them rising out of fear, fear that people
will not contribute unless they have some incentive, like social
recognition. The understanding that it is natural, inherent, to
want to contribute, is absent from this analysis.
a clarification in the context of anna's remark,
I saw Equipotentiality first explained by Jorge Ferrer, but did not
further inquire into its prior origins. Although social recognition is
very important, and though contributions often lead to social
recognition, and though I believe that contributions will be a primary
generator of social recognition in a commons-based society, I do not
hold that people only contribute out of fear, i.e. negative extrinsic
motivation. On the contrary, for about ten years, I have insisted that
peer production is mostly passionate production, i.e. instrinsic, and
multi-motivational. The idea that contributions are incentived by
recognition is a neoliberal idea that I do not hold.
Anna, In my experience, contributory roles are only going to be invested
in fixed hierarchies so far as a culture of dominance prevails. I would
agree that whether due to 'recognition' or not, fear is a likely element
of human relationships, not least of equipotential relations in lived
commons. Our history speaks and expects, and if our formation includes
life structured by threat as some of mine was, then fear can be
embedded, driving us towards avoiding the re-stimulative triggers.
However so far as a culture, whether commons peer production or
otherwise succeeds in eliminating coercion and bullying, a tricky mutual
task, fear is more likely to be owned by a person as belonging to them
rather than caused by the culture they are in.
My experience of commoning is that recognition does have some value but
that 'reputation' and allied with it, 'presence', are key organizers.
'*peer production is mostly passionate production, i.e. instrinsic, and
multi-motivational'.* This is certainly how I have seen the peer
production of civic accountability.
To step aside from this a little, I guess what Anna and I appear share
is a concern that embodiment and the empathic values and commitments
that go with it seem submerged here under quite a lot of
hyper/abstraction (psycommons - I plead guilty!). I don't see this as a
leadership issue Michel, more I suppose that contributions here reflect
an actual male dominant take on life, women get a taste of this and find
something else to do. Does this matter for the P2P project? Well yes I
think it matters a lot.
Denis
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