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>> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Pat Conaty 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 2016. Orsan at Networked Labour has been very helpful and encouraging.

I think Pat is being kind, I didn't do anything else then providing some web 
links to English sites of the Dutch self-employed union and some contact names. 

Next to that, I did share my personal experience where it did not-work; since 
my union as mainstream unions in general around here, has been operating as a 
mix of interest group and business enterprise -sharing the norm of 
competitiveness as culture, providing advice as main 'product' (next to the 
discounted services and products from other companies), running on membership 
fees and subsidy received from the state; hence hiring marketing firm as the 
tool to organize membership base. I am not sure though this part was so useful 
and encouraging. 

Best, Orsan
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