Dear friends, in this text from Michel Bauwens we can see, that he don´t understand, what is the Internet. And the question to "3rd industrial revolution"? It is a big and cheap propaganda.
Internet The INTER-connection of local NET-works. Or "Net of NETS". The problem is, that today in the telecommunication exist no net. We find only bus and star topologies. The net is a well defined geometrical structure. We know it from woven fabrics, from the spider nets, from hammocks, from fisher nets. A recursive geometrical structure, where every node is connected to his neighbors. But this structure you will never find in the telecommunication. And also not in the many "community networks". Therefore a "internet-based 3rd industrial revolution" don´t exist because no Internet exist. Industrial revolution What should be this? The dissolve of any form of blocking for centralized fabrication and his necessary infrastructure. This means, the actors need his open space for acting in this direction. And this was firstly focused to the feudalistic structure. But today we have the same. And 1rd, 2rd, 3rd ...? It is nonsense. Our perspective "Global thinking, local doing" and "knowledge is always world heritage". For this we need our telecommunication for our communication over geographical and time distances. We give our telecommunication the form of Internet, the inter-connection of local net-works. A transportsystem for digital data in packet form. It is simple to realize in an open space of free cooperation worldwide. The most important step, and the first, is to break our dogmatic. Application layer like Browser In principle, first we act for our telecommunication on the physical layer, the connection layer, the transport layer for digital data in packet form. Over this layer we have the application layer, the interpretation layer. You can use any name. You act on this layer on the data, the second part in the IP packets. In the transport layer, we act only on the header in the IP packets. The information for transport. The data is a closed box. On the application layer, you can do, what you want. You can use standardized protocols (languages) or not. You are free to design your communication with your partners on the other side. many greetings, willi St. Elena de Uairen, Venezuela -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- Betreff: [New post] When did the internet-based 3rd industrial revolution really start ? Datum: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:42:08 +0000 Von: P2P Foundation <[email protected]> An: [email protected] Post : When did the internet-based 3rd industrial revolution really start ? URL : https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/internet-based-3rd-industrial-revolution-really-start/2016/04/23 Posted : April 23, 2016 at 10:41 pm Author : Michel Bauwens Tags : 3rd Industrial Revolution, Elisabeth Eisenstein, Kevin Kelly, Robert Gordon, social change, Technology Categories : Collective Intelligence, Culture & Ideas, P2P Collaboration, P2P Society and Politics, P2P Subjectivity, P2P Technology > he 3rd Industrial Revolution is not really computers and the internet, it is > the networking of everythin Regarding the question in the title above, my own proposal would be to place this in 1993, the date of the invention of the browser for the world wide web, because it made the massive interconnection of minds possible from that moments onwards (the decade before it was reserved for the scientific elite). I believe it makes sense to divide the network era into an era in which computers were either unconnected, or only connected by the elite, which used it to create the basis of the neoliberal re-organization of our global economic system. However, if we take a non-technocratic view, we could argue that the capabilities of universal interconnectedness and global cooperation had their cultural roots in the great cultural revolution that took place in 1968, and the birth of post-capitalist values in the cultural sphere. Why does this matter? Because some historians, like Elisabeth Eisenstein in her history of the effects of the printing press on European society, argue that it takes four generations for such a full societal change to play out. So it matters when we begin counting! Kevin Kelly's hypothesis however, which is focused on the full technical capability to interconnect all things, starts his calculation more or less in 1996, the date of birth of the commercial internet, while I would place it at the birth of the civic internet. Here ( http://kk.org/thetechnium/the-post-produc/ ) is what he writes: "If digital innovations, millions of apps, the vast social networks that are being woven are increasing our living standards where is the evidence in the GDP? I think the key sentence in (Robert) Gordon’s paper is this: “Both the first two revolutions required about 100 years for their full effects to percolate through the economy.” Repeat: it took a century for the full benefits of the innovations to show up. By my calculation we are into year 20 of this 3rd upheaval. Gordon wants to start the clock on the 3rd Industrial Revolution in 1960 at the start of commercial computers. That’s an arbitrary starting point; I would arbitrarily start it at the dawn of the commercial internet because I don’t think unconnected computers by themselves are revolutionary. Unconnected computers did not change much. Standalone personal computers hardly changed our lives at all. They sped up typing, altered publishing, and changed spreadsheet modeling forever, but these were minor blips in the economy and well-being of most people. Big mainframe computers helped the largest corporations manage financial assets or logistics, but a number of studies have shown that they did not elevate much growth. Everything changed, however, when computers married the telephone. This is when ordinary people noticed computers. They could get online. Everything went online. Retail changed, production changed, occupations changed. This communication revolution accelerated change elsewhere. Processes and gizmos got smarter because they were connected. Now the advantages of personal computers made sense because in fact they were just local terminals in something bigger: the network. As the Sun Computer company famously put it: the network is the computer. So the 3rd Industrial Revolution is not really computers and the internet, it is the networking of everything. And in that regime we are just at the beginning of the beginning. We have only begun to connect everything to everything and to make little network minds everywhere. It may take another 80 years for the full affect of this revolution to be revealed. In the year 2095 when economic grad students are asked to review this paper of Robert Gordon and write about why he was wrong back in 2012, they will say things like “Gordon missed the impact from the real inventions of this revolution: big data, ubiquitous mobile, quantified self, cheap AI, and personal work robots. All of these were far more consequential than stand alone computation, and yet all of them were embryonic and visible when he wrote his paper. He was looking backwards instead of forward.” Photo ( http://wpinject.com/ ) by http://www.flickr.com/photos/58748148@N08/6911032554 Add a comment to this post: https://blog.p2pfoundation.net/internet-based-3rd-industrial-revolution-really-start/2016/04/23#respond -- Manage Subscriptions https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=a5cfae032cc8ec91c4f0b9e91fb0f489&email=willi.uebelherr%40gmail.com Unsubscribe: https://subscribe.wordpress.com/?key=a5cfae032cc8ec91c4f0b9e91fb0f489&email=willi.uebelherr%40gmail.com&b=C2zB%3F7%2FjhAON%25SJm2y%5BN%256%7EgWF6%7C0CB%2F%2Fg%2B%2BaZgim%5DX4k7%3F%3FoO_ _______________________________________________ P2P Foundation - Mailing list Blog - http://www.blog.p2pfoundation.net Wiki - http://www.p2pfoundation.net Show some love and help us maintain and update our knowledge commons by making a donation. 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