Thanks for these links Pat, and any others you think would be helpful. Anna
> On 1 Aug 2016, at 17:32, Pat Conaty <[email protected]> wrote: > > Michel > > Not sure about the internal politics within the team. A number left in the > team are good experts. > > But my point is that several elements have to be aligned. A new accountable > leadership style for sure as the article you shared makes clear. > Then a creative use of complexity theory in practice. > > But also if the theory of new economics is not sound then this impacts on the > programmes. Not due to leadership but because of a faulty understanding and > analysis. > > For example Richard Murphy from the UK Tax Justice Network was not selected > to be in the Corbyn advice team whereas last summer he was guiding Corbyn > on Peoples QE that was popular with people in the Labour party who voted for > Corbyn. Since then these ideas have been not on the agenda and what Ingham > calls for > is not far removed from Murphy’s thinking and guidance. > > All the best > > Pat > >> On 1 Aug 2016, at 17:20, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> thanks for the details Pat, >> >> I remember critiques that Jeremy was not a good listener and did not work >> well with his advisory team, >> >> Michel >> >>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 11:07 PM, Pat Conaty >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi Michel >>> >>> This is a good piece on complexity theory and participative politics that >>> Anna Harris has shared. As I have mentioned, this way forward is great and >>> also the >>> work of Stafford Beer on viable systems theory for intensifying >>> co-operative forms of democracy. But I only wish Corbyn was moving in this >>> direction. Not questioning his good will to do so and his integrity of >>> course but little evidence of this yet emerging. See the relatively recent >>> Gary Younge article below when there >>> were three leaders in the race for Labour party leader, now just Smith and >>> Corbyn. >>> >>> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/13/corbyn-critics-destroying-labour-party-members >>> >>> But in addition to complexity management and new forms of leadership, there >>> is the need for a deeper understanding of economics and what is money. This >>> question is the >>> Elephant in the room as Geoffrey Ingham explained and that all socialists >>> need to get to grips with. The Economic Advisory Committee advising >>> Corbyn are all left of centre economists but even Piketty and Stiglitz have >>> a poor analysis of What is money as Ingham highlights below. >>> >>> https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/geoffrey-ingham/whose-money-is-it >>> >>> Corbyn and other anti-austerity politicians thus lacks guidance on this >>> question that is crucial for developing alternative economic strategies. >>> >>> Ingham is a professor at Cambridge. He is a socialist and in his book, The >>> Nature of Money, he shows that unfortunately Marx got the money question >>> wrong. Despite some great insights, fundamentally Marx concluded that money >>> was a commodity. He took this from Aristotle. The real truth is that it is >>> not a commodity but a social technology as David Graeber has shown. >>> >>> However as Ingham observes, this errant view of Marx has sent most of the >>> left down the wrong road to understand money and hence most of the left is >>> blind on this question. From a theoretical perspective this is a fatal >>> flaw. Ingham argues so well that we need to revisit the What is money >>> debates from the 1920s and folk like Gesell and also Douglas and social >>> credit ideas as these show where the real answers are. Ingham calls for a >>> public social partnership on monetary and banking reform to replace the >>> oppressive and toxic public private partnership destroying both society and >>> ecology and leading us in to relentless wars defending geopolitical turf >>> over oil and other resources. >>> >>> All the best >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>>> On 1 Aug 2016, at 09:16, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> dear Pat, has anything been written on the contrary view that was reported >>>> on in that other discussion ? >>>> >>>> Michel >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Anna Harris <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> The Corbyn Model of Leadership >>>>> Of all the people currently in leadership positions in a major political >>>>> party anywhere in the world, Jeremy Corbyn is the only one who shows the >>>>> potential of being a leader who could begin to manage successfully the >>>>> complex problems that all of our societies have to face in the coming >>>>> decades. >>>>> >>>>> Brilliant article, first I've seen really understanding what Corbyn is >>>>> trying to do. >>>>> >>>>> https://medium.com/@ROY_MADRON/the-corbyn-model-of-leadership-a7a006405f27#.hyj8ckaw2 >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetworkedLabour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.contrast.org/mailman/listinfo/networkedlabour >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: >>>> http://commonstransition.org >>>> >>>> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >>>> >>>> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >>>> >>>> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org >> >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/ >
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