ok, thanks, we will check the licensing! On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:03 PM, Zachary Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi All, > > Confused by this thread, but do what you will with my and Marc > paper--within reason and the letter of Spanda's contracts (I think it is > creative commons)… > > Let me know what you need from me. > > zak > > > *Dr. Zachary Stein* > *www.zakstein.org <http://zakstein.org>* > > > > > > > On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:43 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear Gregory: > > > by the way, I did a first processing of your article here, https://wiki. > p2pfoundation.net/Consciousness_and_the_Post-Capitalist_Commons > > and here are some remarks which I share with our mailing list > > I wrote on fb: > > "Dear Gregory Wilpert > <https://www.facebook.com/gregwilpert?hc_location=ufi>: I have 2 issues > with your vision in the paper; the first is that you call cooperatives > 'capitalist commons'; now that may be correct as saying that coops are the > form that commons can take within capitalism, but they were clearly posed > as an alternative to it, often antagonistic, even though some were > transformed into collectively-competing entities within the capitalist > market; still I find this term too much of a short hand > Like <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#> > · Reply <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#> · 2 mins > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/permalink/1552859761424864/?comment_id=1552867904757383&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D> > Edit <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#> > [image: Michel Bauwens] <https://www.facebook.com/mbauwens?fref=ufi> > Michel Bauwens <https://www.facebook.com/mbauwens?fref=ufi> also even > today, many 'post-capitalist' commons are actually subsumed within > capitalism, and not necessarily opposed to that; developer commons for > example, are mostly clearly liberal in their basic orientation; others, > whom I don't agree with, want to exclude those from the commons defintion, > and only recognize anti-capitalist commons as true commons; > Like <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#> > · Reply <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#> · 1 min > <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/permalink/1552859761424864/?comment_id=1552868878090619&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D> > Edit <https://www.facebook.com/groups/p2p.open/#> > [image: Michel Bauwens] <https://www.facebook.com/mbauwens?fref=ufi> > Michel Bauwens <https://www.facebook.com/mbauwens?fref=ufi> finally, you > seem to almost exclusively equate post-capitalist commons with cultural > commons, while the transformation towards physical production has been > underway for at least 15 years and there are commons-based physical > production communities (such as Atelier Paysan) > > > -- Check out the Commons Transition Plan here at: http://commonstransition.org P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net <http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation>Updates: http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens #82 on the (En)Rich list: http://enrichlist.org/the-complete-list/
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