Glad to hear your assessment Kevin, though I have certainlly seen examples of what Micha says here,
here's an analysis of a Black Marxist: https://blackagendareport.com/are-intersectionalism-or-afro-pessimism-paths-power-probably-not-part-3-3 On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:00 PM, < [email protected]> wrote: > Send P2P-Foundation mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p- > foundation > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of P2P-Foundation digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: challenging the identiarian agenda (Kevin Carson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 15:17:51 -0500 > From: Kevin Carson <[email protected]> > To: P2P Foundation mailing list <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [P2P-F] challenging the identiarian agenda > Message-ID: > <CANETeExbcxr9RjVKWStjPQUjFytaeToE808AwY+DpLtiZ3bk2A@mail. > gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > IMO there's a lot of straw here -- from what I've seen in my encounters > with a whole lot of different left tendencies on social media, pure > "identitarianism" is relatively minor. The overwhelming majority of those > fighting for racial and gender justice are thoroughly intersectionalist, > reject a focus on racial and gender identity at the expense of class, and > see racial and gender oppression mutually interacting with and reinforcing > class oppression and serving the interests of capital. To the extent that > anyone in the real world elevates "identity politics" over economics and > class, it's center-left establishment interests like supporters of Clinton. > Intersectional theory was actually invented to counter the pure > identitarian movements of the 1970s (like Second Wave feminism). > > And if there's anything that's guaranteed to set off the "mansplaining" > radar of women and POC and actively alienate them, it's an article by a > white guy trying to explain that structural racism and patriarchy are > really not all that bad. > > In short, this article is an attempt to "fix" something that mostly doesn't > exist outside the imaginations of brocialists like Freddie DeBoer, and it > will be incredibly counter-productive in its effects. If anything, creating > a dichotomy between identity and class will directly serve the interests of > capital by creating new racial and gender tensions in the economic justice > movement and making it easier, not harder, to fissure economic and class > justice movements along racial and gender lines. > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:33 AM, Michel Bauwens <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I recommend reading this important essay by Micha Narberhaus, I would > > also like to republish on our blog (advocacy is in cc) > > > > See http://smart-csos.org/blog-on-theory-and-practice/ > > 210-why-we-need-to-switch-the-story > > > > The essay deals with what I consider the serious exagerrations and > > one-sidedness of the identitarian left, and how it settles on an > exclusive > > narrative based on oppression and discrimation at the detriment of more > > integrative approaches. > > > > Here is a very thoughtful treatment that aims to create balance in > > transitional strategies, > > > > Michel
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