I share Alex's confusion.  Antoine, can you give us more detail on this?

-david

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Pankratov
> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:34 AM
> To: theory and practice of decentralized computer networks
> Subject: Re: [p2p-hackers] Strange Behavior...Concerning NATs
> 
> Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > Le mercredi 05 juillet 2006 à 19:31 -0700, Lemon Obrien a écrit :
> >> When two processes are running on the same machine; different port
> >> numbers, using their known global ip address, can not talk to each
> >> other, yet be able to find and communicate with all other peers.
> >
> > Yes I've seen it happen behind a NAT too. I've been explained it's a
> > security measure: if this was allowed, an external host could use IP
> > spoofing to simulate traffic between machines on the LAN (while LAN
> > traffic is supposed to be trustable), and then do all kinds of nasty
> > things.
> 
> I worked very closely with a number of NAT/policing engines. Having
> thought about your remark for sometime now, I can't seem to understand
> how hairpin'ing could possibly contribute to an attack you referred to.
> 
> It sounds more like a design flaw in a specific policing engine that
> was 'plugged' by disabling hairpin'ing. Do you have any details on the
> context of the explanation you received ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
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