yeah you got me...i just had to crack part of it; and getting the open source was hard to do...i believe its still hard.
joel
David Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
David Barrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Isn't limewire open source?
On Tue, 15 Aug 2006 4:17 pm, Lemon Obrien wrote:
> yeah...but with java you can easily do it...find the encryption class
> you need...or get access to the data before encryption...just by
> creating an extension of a known class and over-riding it's virtual
> method....its not hard. I've done this plenty of times with
> professional products like 'weblogic' commerce server...i wanted
> funtionality from a class they provided. Of course when you do this;
> you busting the warrenty...but who cares.
>
> now, think of the desktop...then think of giving your program away to
> get users; You know, to find out how limewire worked...i decompiled it.
> i've even decompiled class wtihin the security package provided by
> sun...to see what was going on...and maybe to steal...shhh....don't
> tell anyone.
>
> oh yeah...JXTA sucks...unless you're corporate and making something
> totally irrelivant. Try going through a firewall with that shit...last
> time i checked it was a no-go.
>
> don't get me wrong....java has its place. I use it to do payment
> processing and email stuff...writing small servers doing simple stuff.
>
> its just, most people who do java can't do anything else...
>
> Daniel Brookshier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> Yikes! Decompile is hardly a security issue. We obfuscate Java all the
>> time to prevent the random prying eye, but C and all other languages
>> are just as easily hacked. You can not hide references to libraries
>> and such in either language. There is no such thing as code security,
>> just obscurity.
>>
>> Daniel Brookshier
>>
>> office 972-422-5261
>>
>> cell 214-207-6614
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2006, at 3:29 PM, Lemon Obrien wrote:
>>
>>> you've never decompiled java then...i have...especially if i wanted
>>> to changed how something worked.
>>>
>>> Mike Duigou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lemon Obrien wrote:
>>>>> depends on the data you're transporting. I specificaly stayed away
>>>>> from java cause it was easy to crack...and the data transported, as
>>>>> well as the protocols, are sensitive.
>>>>
>>>> That's ridiculous. Strong crypto is strong crypto no matter what
>>>> implementation language you use. The same applies for good protocol
>>>> design--the quality of the design matters far, far more than the
>>>> language it is implemented in.
>>>>
>>>>>> */Sashidhar Reddy Mukkamalla /* wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>>> I am trying to develop a p2p app. Can anyone point me some
>>>>>> literature about security issues/concerns with p2p applications in
>>>>>> particular and network programs in general. Any pointers would be
>>>>>> greatly helpful (both introductory and advanced)
>>>>
>>>> Any time spent reading about the fundamental algorithms, technologies
>>>> and standards will be time well spent. It will be generally applicable
>>>> no matter what type of application you are building or environment you
>>>> are building it for.
>>>>
>>>> Whenever I need a refresher on any topic I usually start here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/tutorial/index.html
>>>>
>>>> or
>>>>
>>>> http://ospkibook.sourceforge.net/docs/OSPKI-2.4.7/OSPKI-html/ospki-book.htm
>>>>
>>>> and then branch off into google searches from there. Some of the
>>>> specific topics are very dated e.g. "Skipjack" but the issues always
>>>> remain relevant.
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
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