I have only really seen it in public hotspots.  Strangely enough, one of our
teams member's firewall does not let UDP in or out.  I am not really sure
why, it is just a Netgear CG814M and I do not think he added any special
rules.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barrett
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 4:57 PM
To: 'theory and practice of decentralized computer networks'
Subject: RE: [p2p-hackers] Re: A new approach to NAT/Firewall traversal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Capone
> 
> Some firewall do not let UDP in or out.  The advantage with TCP is 
> even if you have a very restricted firewall on one side, the outbound 
> connection will look like a normal tcp open to it and it will allow 
> the connection to form.

Have you seen this much in practice?  While I'm sure this happens to some
degree -- especially in locked-down corporate environments -- those same
environments also probably block outbound TCP.

Have you seen many environments that allow outbound, unproxied TCP
connections while blocking outbound UDP?

In my experience, straight up UDP blockage is exceedingly rare -- less than
1% of connections surveyed, though my demographic tends toward home users.

-david

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