>
> Just wondering when you do your statistics if you condition your rates on
> "new" attempts.  For users that it works, it will continue to work and these
> users will form multiple connections and for users that is does not work,
> they will not try to form more connections….basically, if you just looked at
> connection formation rates it will be unfairly weighted.
>
Good point, Jeff!

> However, I too do believe even "new" connection rates in the 90+
> percentile is possible if you use a variety of techniques.
>
That's what I'd like to know if someone or a product has acchieved!

Carlos



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> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Alex Pankratov
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 04, 2007 10:54 AM
> *To:* 'theory and practice of decentralized computer networks'
> *Subject:* Re: [p2p-hackers] Effective TCP and UDP NAT Traversal (no
> relaying)
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>
> *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Carlos Kamienski
> *Sent:* Monday, September 03, 2007 8:00 AM
> *To:* theory and practice of decentralized computer networks
> *Subject:* Re: [p2p-hackers] Effective TCP and UDP NAT Traversal (no
> relaying)
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> I do care, but, sorry, can't share. It is not 99% though, I can tell you
> this much. At some point I made a comment on this list, that 97-98% should
> be achievable. Since then we added TCP NAT traversal and a handful of UDP
> traversal tricks. On other hand Hamachi's userbase profile has changed.
> Specifically, the percentage of home users (behind dumb routers) declined in
> favor of people behind proxies and other funny devices (e.g. load
> balancers). We got more people connecting from far places (hop count and
> latency-wise) as well. So the number works out to be about the same as it
> was before. With just the home users I suspect we would've been in 95-97%
> range, though I might be off.
>
>
> Do you mean 95-97% for both TCP and UDP?
>
>  UDP mostly. TCP tunnels account for under 2% in our system, and the
> number should be even lower if we are looking at the home users only.
>
>
>
> Alex
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