Arnaud Legout wrote:
> [Should we limit the cross posting? I believe sending this thread to
> 4 mailing lists is too much (may be this is because I am subscribed
> to all four)]

[... I took p2pi off; I suspect that a lot of this discussion is
  pertinent to p2p-hackers.  Unless I hear from that list's moderator
  otherwise we can continue to include them (many from p2p-hackers
  may not be subscribed to the IETF lists.) ...]

First off, thanks for reading the draft.

Next ...

> here is some feeback based on what we did in [Le Blond].
> 
> section 3 We show that we can achieve much higher savings than 80% of
> reduction. [...]

OK; noted.

> section 4 we explain the relation between peers download completion
> time and network congestion. [...]

Similarly noted; thanks.

> section 8.1 you write that we did simulations. We did not, we did
> experiments with real BitTorrent clients.

OK, we will correct that.

> section 8.2 it is not clear what you mean in "as shown in [Le Blond],
> the right balance of randomness and locality depends on the P2P
> algorithm". We did not explore several P2P protocols, but only
> BitTorrent. We show that BT is extremely robust to high locality (as
> long as there is enough randomness within each ISP). We cannot
> conclude for any other P2P protocol.

Sure; we will correct and restrict the offending text accordingly.

> "On the other hand, P2P systems not adopting the tit-for-tat approach
> (e.g. the eDonkey network) should not be damaged by locality-based" 
> It is not clear to me. Peer selection (tit-for-tat like choking algo
> in BT) is not the only one factor of efficiency, there is also piece
> diversity. Edonkey/emule also use rarest first (but a less efficient
> peer selection algorithm). Therefore, as locality adversely impact 
> piece diversity, my bet is that Edonkey/emule will suffer from
> locality.

OK; we had clearly not considered piece diversity here.

Thanks, Arnaud.

- vijay
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