I don't know that much is stopping people from building P2P systems today; Michal Wozniak gave a talk at 32c3 about the plethora of decentralised social networking systems out there these days, currently more than 50 of them listed on Wikipedia alone. Many of them federate at the HTTP layer, but it seems like the content bootstrapping problem continues to be a challenge in getting these systems to take off.
Andrea Shepard (of Tor) and I have been noodling for a little while on a different approach, namely federation of *content* via a distributed link-based timestamp chain. I need to get a writeup of that together, though. Cheers, --mlp On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Michael Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > Still here, still wrestling the P2P octopus, and still learning that > holy shit, centralisation is easier. But where's the fun in easy? > > Back in the olden days, people liked to write papers about sexy problems > like scaling a DHT to a billion nodes, but there was an unsexy problem > that never got solved and seemed to trip up a lot of real world systems: > you couldn't make a connection between two peers because of firewalls > and NAT. The systems that worked were those that had a lot of peers and > didn't particularly care which ones they connected to. > > Nowadays we can solve that problem with Tor hidden services (unless > you're using WebRTC, in which case have fun deploying your TURN server). > So my question is, what's the unsexy, unsolved problem that's stopping > people from building P2P systems today? > > Cheers, > Michael > > On 01/02/16 21:34, Alex Pankratov wrote: > > Every month I get this reminder and every time I think what a > > damn nice read this mailing list once was. Too bad it's no more. > > > > Shall we do the head count, gentlemen? > > > > Who else on here is longing for the good old times? :) > > > > -- > > Alex Pankratov > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mailman [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > >> [email protected] > >> Sent: February 1, 2016 6:00 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: lists.zooko.com mailing list memberships reminder > >> > >> This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your lists.zooko.com > >> mailing list memberships. It includes your subscription info and how to > >> use it to change it or unsubscribe from a list. > >> > >> You can visit the URLs to change your membership status or > configuration, > >> including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling > >> delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. > >> > >> In addition to the URL interfaces, you can also use email to make such > >> changes. For more info, send a message to the '-request' address of the > >> list (for example, [email protected]) containing just the > >> word 'help' in the message body, and an email message will be sent to > you > >> with instructions. > >> > >> If you have questions, problems, comments, etc, send them to mailman- > >> [email protected]. Thanks! > >> > >> Passwords for [email protected]: > >> > >> List Password // URL > >> ---- -------- > >> [email protected] p2p.hackers > >> http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/options/p2p-hackers/ap%40poneyhot.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > p2p-hackers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers > > > > _______________________________________________ > p2p-hackers mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers > >
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