I'm still here. Lately been focusing on mobile and poker but I'm definitely sad that the 'p2p' moniker has been usurped by the likes of Uber, AirBnB, etc. 😂
Mobile devices hold great p2p promise but given their networks are controlled by the carriers they can't ably act as bidirectional nodes. On Monday, February 8, 2016, Drew Winget <[email protected]> wrote: > I joined about a year or a year and half ago perhaps, so I don't know what > the "good old days" were, but I'll be happy to see them rekindled. > > My primary interests are in having unified interfaces for distributed > resources. IPFS <https://ipfs.io/>, Stronglink > <https://github.com/btrask/stronglink>, IPLD > <https://github.com/diasdavid/js-ipld>, Camlistore > <https://camlistore.org/> and Mediachain > <https://medium.com/mine-labs/introducing-mediachain-a696f8fd2035#.dumcuds04> > all seem like very worthwhile and promising approaches to a > user-owned-and-operated web of knowledge/media which protects users while > providing enough abstraction on top of which to build a seamless interface. > Ultimately I would love to use a web entirely owned by the end users, down > to radio/mesh-networked hardware, with perhaps some large coordinating > hardware owned in a cooperative fashion through some kind of cryptocurrency > royalties system. This was the original vision of the web (Vannevar Bush, > Doug Engelbart, Ted Nelson (though he's a bit more of an authoritarian), > etc.). In general, http is a ghetto; an new solution is needed at the > protocol level, based on an evolving, interoperable open standard. > > IPLD and Mediachain are particularly interesting in this area, since they > are explicitly aimed at migrating linked data into the merkle dag, so that > search and context modelling can be done collaboratively and stored in a > way that can guarantee attribution. > > On 7 February 2016 at 21:06, Alen Peacock <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Still here, but often forget to check the folder these messages dump >> into... >> >> This list is where I first announced the flud project and the primary >> location I announced subsequent early releases. Since that time the >> tech evolved into Space Monkey and a very fun ride through startup >> land -- all built on serious p2p arch. Internally, we still refer to >> the codebase as "flud," although I'd be surprised if a single line of >> code from the original project still exists in the current >> product/service, and the core architecture has evolved in drastic ways >> too. >> >> What other companies have been founded by list alumni? I know of Uber >> (Kalanick), Expensify (Barrett), Zcash (Zooko), Space Monkey (me). >> Others? >> >> Cheers! >> Alen >> >> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Aymeric Vitte <[email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> > The problem maybe is that one cannot invent one system/network per need >> > and expect a sufficient number of users to understand how each one >> > works, how they can use them and trust them so they can fly. >> > >> > See only the bittorrent network, users have generally no idea what's >> > behind, leading to funny (new) things like >> > https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live#deanonymizing-the-vpn-peers >> > >> > That's why I thought about https://github.com/Ayms/node-Tor#convergence >> > >> > Sorry for the too short description for now but that's not a vague idea >> > at all, the list of services not being exhaustive and the concept being >> > to be able to build and deploy them easily on top of the Convergence >> > architecture (using browsers and WebRTC). >> > >> > One of the issues being that the standard bodies still do not get that >> > the model of an app inside browsers tied to a domain and associated TLS >> > certificate(s) is an obsolete concept that should be replaced by an >> > entity ID system, different from what is proposed today (ie "securing" >> > for example a WebRTC peer connection via its Google account) >> > >> > Le 02/02/2016 20:38, Meredith L. Patterson a écrit : >> >> I don't know that much is stopping people from building P2P systems >> >> today; Michal Wozniak gave a talk at 32c3 about the plethora of >> >> decentralised social networking systems out there these days, currently >> >> more than 50 of them listed on Wikipedia alone. Many of them federate >> at >> >> the HTTP layer, but it seems like the content bootstrapping problem >> >> continues to be a challenge in getting these systems to take off. >> >> >> >> Andrea Shepard (of Tor) and I have been noodling for a little while on >> a >> >> different approach, namely federation of *content* via a distributed >> >> link-based timestamp chain. I need to get a writeup of that together, >> >> though. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> --mlp >> > >> > -- >> > Get the torrent dynamic blocklist: http://peersm.com/getblocklist >> > Check the 10 M passwords list: http://peersm.com/findmyass >> > Anti-spies and private torrents, dynamic blocklist: >> http://torrent-live.org >> > Peersm : http://www.peersm.com >> > torrent-live: https://github.com/Ayms/torrent-live >> > node-Tor : https://www.github.com/Ayms/node-Tor >> > GitHub : https://www.github.com/Ayms >> > _______________________________________________ >> > p2p-hackers mailing list >> > [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> > http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers >> _______________________________________________ >> p2p-hackers mailing list >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> http://lists.zooko.com/mailman/listinfo/p2p-hackers >> > >
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