Let me try to rephrase what I think the real issue is:

If a node starts up and cannot connect to any other nodes, there
are two possibilities:

1. It's the first node and should start up as owning the entire
   overlay.
2. It can't access the overlay and should report an error.

How does a node determine which case is relevant?

-Ekr


At Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:39:17 -0400,
David A. Bryan wrote:
> 
> I'm actually a bit confused what you are asking on this one.
> 
> In theory, any peer can bootstrap one in, from the way I read it (and
> it certainly *should* be that way). Hence the ability to use cached
> peers. The configuration described in 13.2 lists those peers that are
> serving as bootstrap peers. I can see two things you might actually be
> asking here:
> 
> So if your question is "How does a peer add itself to the list?" I think:
> 
> I'm don't think a peer itself should always be deciding that it is a
> bootstrap peer. How the file described in 13.2 is created seems best
> left as a configuration issue. In an open, non-managed public internet
> overlay, perhaps peers can decide and add themselves, but in a managed
> network, that file is likely only going to be modified by the operator
> and contain a list of some well known, likely service
> provider/enterprise operated peers.
> 
> My 2 cents would to leave how to decide who is in there out of scope
> for this document.
> 
> If your question is "How does a peer decide it is a good candidate to
> be a bootstrap peer, in the absence of operator provided peers?", this
> is much more tricky. Much like selecting a relay peer. I'm not sure
> the answer to that one, and it seems a very tricky problem. It also
> seems the ALTO work may come into play in that case.
> 
> David (as individual)
> 
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 3:04 PM, Cullen Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > How does a node decide it should be a bootstrap peer. The current document
> > more or less say configuration.
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