Dan, this is is a hard question and I am going to take my best shot in 5 minutes at an answer that is at least 90% correct.

When a PS draft called X has a normative reference to draft Y that is informational, it gets called it a downref. The downrefs are allowed under certain conditions. The long answer is "it's complicated", the short answer is that if the parts of Y that X needs are suitable for PS, then it's sometimes OK. It's never easy or a slam dunk. Note that a non normative reference is not a problem.

This leads to the question of what makes a reference normative. Roughly speaking, if you can not correctly implement X without the information in Y, it is likely a normative reference. If Y just has information that might help you understand the problems space, or better understand how things work or things that you should consider but you could in theory at least figure out a correct implementation without Y, then it is probably informational.

You can read more about it in RFC 3967

Cullen <a rare email send in my RAI AD role>


On Nov 5, 2008, at 19:26 , Dan York wrote:

Cullen,

I ask this question purely because I don't honestly know the answer - what is the policy within RAI or the larger IETF of including references to *Informational* RFCs within drafts intended to be *Standards track* RFCs? Obviously I know it's done... I'm thinking for instance of any number of drafts that reference P-Asserted- Identity out of Informational RFC 3325. I'm just wondering what the policy/convention/thinking is in general.

Thanks,
Dan

On Nov 5, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Cullen Jennings wrote:


It appears the dns-sd stuff is close to done. We might reconsider if we want to put this back in RELOAD.


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