Hi Henry: I think there are many possible levels of "management" here from central to none. In the case I was talking about in this email, I'm think the authors were talking about a system where there is a central manager and they are using a mechanism (certificates?) to limit who can join, who can manage etc.. It may even not go outside a particular provider or enterprise. Obviously many of us (myself included) want to see some nice open P2P network out there, but I am quite certain there will be managed uses of this technology as well, and I think we are better off considering them, and providing mechanisms that are standardized that recognize they will exist than pretending they don't, and having non-standard implementations, so I think it makes sense that the authors are considering that.
Obviously there are many case like what you describe, where the system will span the internet and have no admin, and I think we need a diagnostic package that works for those, so it is very important to find an approach that allows one to diagnose a network just as you describe -- one that is open, and self organized. That is actually the harder part of this problem, and the one I want to discuss. We don't want to take the easy way out and only design for managed either. Thanks for reminding us! David On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Henry Sinnreich <[email protected]> wrote: >>I think that we would want to clarify the definition >>of managed network > > I fully agree, since some naïve folks out there (including me) think that: > > p2p is self organizing – not managed – unless fixing node software is called > management. > p2p works across the Internet and crosses many ISP networks, several times > even for any one ISP. The p2p operator may not even be in friendly relations > with some the ISPs and compete with them. > > Item 2. has prevented me to understand how in the world ALTO may work, but > that’s another story. > > Note: I contributed to some of the diagnostic scenarios, but not anything > about management of p2p. > > Henry > > > On 3/16/09 3:29 PM, "David A. Bryan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think that we would want to clarify the definition > of managed network > _______________________________________________ P2PSIP mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/p2psip
