You're right, I'm referring to inbound connections, which are
necessary to support peers behind NATs, as we're required to do.  One
could certainly set up an overlay  where NATed nodes cannot be peers,
and so I'm happy to say an overlay should be able to specify such a
configuration, but we can't restrict ourselves to that solution.

Bruce


On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Henning Schulzrinne
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Mar 17, 2009, at 6:25 AM, Bruce Lowekamp wrote:
>
>> Salman,
>>
>> Unfortunately, the conversation is dominated by the need to work in
>> the real Internet, where the dominant situation is that UDP will work
>> and TCP won't.
>
> I'm curious: Is there data indicating the problem? I've heard of problems
> with *inbound* connections via NATs, but the likelihood that outbound TCP
> from behind a NAT doesn't work seems low, given that this would essentially
> kill all consumer applications, from shiny web 2.0 to dusty IMAP.
>
> Henning
>
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