At Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:17:01 +0200,
Bruce Lowekamp wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Eric Rescorla<[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Jul 27, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Bruce Lowekamp <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Eric Rescorla<[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> However, it seems to me that this same effect could be achieved
> >>> simply by having the DAP actually be a TURN server. The client
> >>> could then connect to the TURN server and through it to the
> >>> RP. You get the same message paths, but there's no additional
> >>> protocol mechanisms required to tell anyone that this is
> >>> a client--everything just works. It also has the additional advantage
> >>> that because TURN servers have public IPs, you know you won't
> >>> have to send OAP-DAP messages through the overlay.
> >>>
> >>
> >> This doesn't work when peers can be behind NATs.  There's no way to
> >> ensure that the responsible peer has a public IP and can be a TURN
> >> server.
> >
> > That's not what I said. The dap, which has no special node relationship with
> > the client, is the turn server.
> 
> The DAP was being selected for other criteria, such as having an
> existing bluetooth connection to the client.  That doesn't make it a
> good candidate for a turn server, either.

Well, you don't actually need to be a full TURN server, just one
good enough to do ordinary connections. 

But that said, I don't find this Bluethooth special case very
compelling. If you're going over Bluetooth, this is much more like
having a split client and much less like having a client with an
IP connection to some DAP.

-Ekr
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