Thank you Bruce.

Yes, we have noticed that and agree that the decision of peer promotion is 
basically dependent on the specific overlay algorithm. However, some general 
issues need to be addressed outside TP in order to enable such procedure, for 
instance:
o Who triggers the passive procedure? Either triggered independently by a 
single (e.g. overloading) peer; or triggered globally by the centralized 
overlay administration.
o How to collect candidate stats to make an informed decision? Either collected 
by self-reports; or involving kind of mutual evaluation.
o How to choose from qualified candidates? Randomly selected, or locally 
optimized, or even globally optimized choice.

Different answers to the above questions compose different practical solutions. 
However, RELOAD only needs to provide generic messaging interaction to support 
them. Above all, separate authorizations for peers and clients may be needed as 
well.

As an initial step, we may describe an illustrative scenario and discuss 
potential extensions to RELOAD in order to support it.
In our example, the passive client promotion procedure is triggered locally by 
an overloading peer. Candidacy collection is achieved by ProbeReq/Res messages, 
where the overloading peer seeks help from its directly connected clients 
through specially marked ProbeReq messages and interested clients binds its 
state report and peer certificate with ProbeRes. Promotion decision is made 
locally by the overloading peer and the selected client gets and explicit 
delegation signed by the local decision maker, where a new type of message 
would be employed. The selected client may initialize the normal peer joining 
procedure afterwards, where relevant JoinReq is accompanied by the 
correspondent signed delegation.

BR 
Lingli

-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Bruce Lowekamp [mailto:[email protected]] 
发送时间: 2011年7月8日 10:28
收件人: 邓灵莉/denglingli
抄送: [email protected]
主题: Re: [P2PSIP] new draft submissions for client promotion and one-hop 
algorithm

Thanks for submitting the drafts.  A quick question on the promotion draft.  
Could this be implemented as a topology plugin?  The base draft has always been 
vague on selecting peers vs clients, mostly in hope that future extensions or 
topology plugins could implement their own methods for peer promotion, etc.

Bruce


2011/7/7 邓灵莉/denglingli <[email protected]>:
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> A draft is newly submitted, which proposes extensions to RELOAD to 
> support flexible client promotion and demotion modes. RELOAD aims at 
> providing a uniform protocol for both overlay clients and peers, where 
> promotion of a client to peer is triggered and completed at the 
> client's pleasure. It is proposed that RELOAD provide a more 
> restrictive framework to enable passive promotion and demotion, where 
> decisions are made by the network rather than individual user-owned nodes.
>
>
>
> The mentioned submission entitled can be accessed at 
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-peng-p2psip-promotion/
>
>
>
> Another submission for one-hop algorithm as an alternative for 
> chord-reload is also available and be welcome for comments:
>
> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-peng-p2psip-one-hop-plugin/
>
>
>
> Any comments are highly appreciated.
>
>
>
> BR
>
> Lingli Deng
>
>
>
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