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On 02/20/2012 06:20 PM, Michael Chen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We are painfully aware of many meaningless and bad designs in the draft
> being kept by firm hands of key members of this group, often citing "not to
> break existing implementations out there".
> 
> Well, where are these existing implementation "out there"? Why aren't they 
> participate in the inter-op?

That a very good point.

> 
> Cisco, Polycom, Skype, Huawei, anyone?
> 
> Can we predict that couple years from now we all have to implement known
> bugs in order to inter-operate with Cisco phones or Polycom intercom "out
> there"?

Yes, and the sad part is that there is a mechanism in RELOAD to cope with
early implementations:  Just increment the version number each time a new I-D
breaks interoperability (This is exactly what hyby did for Websockets, which
seems to work very well).

And BTW, when published as RFC, the RELOAD version *will* increment to 0x10,
which means that none of the early implementations will work with this version
anyway.

> 
> Thank you
> 
> Michael Chen
> 
> -----Original message-----
> 
> *From: *Marc Petit-Huguenin <[email protected]>* To: *[email protected]* Cc:
> *[email protected]* Sent: *Mon, Feb 20, 2012 18:18:18 GMT+00:00* 
> Subject: *Re: [P2PSIP] [reload-implementers] RELOAD testing at IETF83
> 
> I did not see much interest in the RELOAD interop in Paris so far. If you 
> think that you will maybe attend, please send me a direct email, you will
> be able to cancel without problem. I really need to have an idea of the
> number of people attending for planning purpose.

- -- 
Marc Petit-Huguenin
Personal email: [email protected]
Professional email: [email protected]
Blog: http://blog.marc.petit-huguenin.org
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