Hi Mirja,

actually, I'm a bit confused about this discussion. There is plenty of work out in the wild about P2P anonymity and pseudonym services ... TOR being one prominent example. However, if I'm not mistaken, no IETF standard exists in this area so that we cannot pointer to a standard solution.

A discussion of the general state of the art in this field feels well beyond the scope of the document: This security subsection shall only make people aware of this privacy aspect. It is not meant to server as a general purpose guidance on privacy in P2P networks. ;)

Cheers,
 Thomas

On 20.04.2016 11:52, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) wrote:
Hi Thomas,

that’s slightly better. However, I would rather like to see a reference to a 
solution or a discuss of potential solution. If there is no solution, this 
should be stated clearly (as a warning).

Mirja


Am 17.04.2016 um 19:11 schrieb Thomas C. Schmidt <[email protected]>:

Hi Mirja,

o.k., the text is a bit sloppy. What it probably should say is that anonymity 
measures are not considered here.

A proposed re-write could be:

8.2.4.  Privacy Issues

   All RELOAD SIP registration data is visible to all nodes in the
   overlay. Location privacy can be gained from using
   anonymous GRUUs. Methods of providing anonymity or deploying
   pseudonyms exist, but are beyond the scope of this document.

Would you agree on that?

Thomas

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The privacy issues text in the security consideration section sounds not
very convincing:

8.2.4.  Privacy Issues

    All RELOAD SIP registration data is visible to all nodes in the
    overlay.  Methods of providing location and identity privacy are
    still being studied.  Location privacy can be gained from using
    anonymous GRUUs.

Can you give more details or a reference regarding the methods that are
still under study?


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