----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adrian Gibanel" <adrian.giba...@btactic.com>
> To: "The Pacemaker cluster resource manager" <pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 10:35:19 AM
> Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] Help on setting order of resources
>
> Let me explain what made me confused.
>
> If you have:
>
> order sample_order inf: 1 2 3
> colocation sample_colo inf: 3 2 1
>
> it works ok as you say.
>
> If you have:
>
> order sample_order inf: 1 2 3
> colocation sample_colo inf: 1 2 3
>
> it doesn't work at all!
>
> What order do you infer from last commands?
> My answer always was: Order statement will define the order so it is:
> 1,2,3. If colocation had any order it would be overwritten.
> But it seems to happen that the way it works is: Colocation will
> define the order so it is: 3,2,1: If order had any order defined it
> is overwritten.
Ahh now I see your confusion. Let me see if I can help. I'm only going to
talk about mandatory order and colocation statements - advisory are a bit
different. I left out the inf: from the order statements above before - I've
correct them now. Ordering and colocation do effect each other but neither
wins or overwrites the other. Pacemaker attempts to fulfill all constraints
and does nothing if it can't meet all required mandatory requirements. First
some basic definitions:
order - the mandatory order in which resources must start/stop
colocation - mandatory placement of resource. Where (what node) a resource is
allowed to run based upon the location of another resource.
In the example above that doesn't work:
Ordering is requiring that 1 starts before 2 can start (and 2 before 3). So 1
has to start up before anything else.
Now the colocation says that 1 has to run where 2 runs and 2 must run where 3
runs. So until 3 is running we have no valid location to run 2 (and therefore
also no place for 1). If 3 isn't running anywhere then 1 and 2 can't run
anywhere either. Ordering doesn't allow us to start 3 until 1 and 2 are
started and at the same time colocation doesn't have any valid nodes to run 1
or 2 until we have 3 running in a known location.
End result nothing runs because ordering tries to start 1 and then the
colocation says I have no valid node for it because 2 isn't running anywhere so
it doesn't start. Same things hold true for 2 and 3.
More information here that might be clearer than what I said for each as well
as more complex examples:
http://www.clusterlabs.org/mwiki/images/d/d6/Ordering_Explained.pdf
http://www.clusterlabs.org/mwiki/images/6/61/Colocation_Explained.pdf
Jake
>
> ----- Mensaje original -----
>
> > De: "Jake Smith" <jsm...@argotec.com>
> > Para: "The Pacemaker cluster resource manager"
> > <pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org>
> > Enviados: Martes, 21 de Agosto 2012 15:59:54
> > Asunto: Re: [Pacemaker] Help on setting order of resources
>
> > Adrian,
>
> > A few more comments below to maybe make it clearer...
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > > > De: "Adrian Gibanel" <adrian.giba...@btactic.com>
> > >
> > > > Para: "The Pacemaker cluster resource manager"
> > > > <pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org>
> > >
> > > > Enviados: Domingo, 19 de Agosto 2012 10:27:34
> > >
> > > > Asunto: Re: [Pacemaker] Help on setting order of resources
> > >
>
> > > > Now that I'm reading about that it makes sense. So it removes
> > > > my
> > > > idea
> > > > of: Colocation = Put in the same machine/server.
> > >
>
> > Not quite sure I understand what you're saying here...
>
> > Colocation does = Put in the same machine/server
> > Just didn't have the "order" inside of colocation statement correct
>
> > > > I copy and paste from Configuration Explained pdf:
> > >
>
> > > > ---
> > >
> > > > Well, I'm going to try to reverse the "order" in the colocation
> > > > statement.
> > >
>
> > > > Now it makes sense why insisted me on setting up resources
> > > > inside
> > > > groups. It seems that makes things easier indeed.
> > >
>
> > Groups - shortcut to order and colocation statements (so yes I
> > think
> > they are easier - as long as you are already confortable with the
> > order/colocation concepts)
>
> > Resources inside groups are ordered as written and collocated in
> > reverse - that's my trick to remember the "normal" way a
> > collocation
> > statement is written. "Usually" the opposite of the order statement
> > i.e.
>
> > order sample_order 1 2 3
> > colocation sample_colo inf: 3 2 1
>
> > And I always review them by reading them with their "action"
> > between
> > the resources i.e.
>
> > order of sample_order is 1 then 2 then 3
> > colocation of sample_colo is always 3 with 2 with 1
>
> > Hope that makes it a bit clearer!
>
> > Jake
>
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