On 26/07/2013, at 10:44 AM, Tan Tai hock <taih...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ops sorry for providing the wrong version number. I am using Corosync 2.3.0-1 
> and Pacemaker 1.1.9-8. What should be done to clear the resources properly 
> that are still running in the event that pacemaker isn't running?

Configure fencing.

> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net> wrote:
> 
> On 24/07/2013, at 6:40 PM, Tan Tai hock <taih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I did not enable fencing. I observe the process running and see that when 
> > the node is up, I will see the following processes:
> >
> > Corosync
> > --------------
> > /usr/sbin/corosync
> >
> > Pacemaker
> > -----------------
> > /usr/libexec/pacemaker/lrmd
> > /usr/libexec/pacemaker/pengine
> > pacemakerd
> > /usr/libexec/pacemaker/stonith
> > /usr/libexec/pacemaker/cib
> > /usr/libexec/pacemaker/crmd
> >
> > If I were to shutdown the network connection of any node and then list out 
> > the processes, I will see that "/usr/sbin/corosync" is no longer running  
> > and for Pacemaker, the following processes are left:
> >
> > Pacemaker
> > -----------------
> > /usr/libexec/pacemaker/lrmd
> > /usr/libexec/pacemaker/pengine
> 
> corosync has probably crashed and taken most of pacemaker with it (all this 
> bits that connect to corosync).
> what versions are you running? because neither "Pacemaker 2.3" nor "Corosync 
> 1.19" exist.
> 
> In any case, the resources are still running there - even if pacemaker isn't.
> 
> If you want to simulate an outage, use firewall rules to block traffic 
> to/from the node.
> If you want to simulate someone opening the box and pulling out it's NIC - 
> keep using ifconfig down.
> 
> >
> > If there is no network connectivity loss and I perform a clean shutdown, I 
> > do not see any of the processes listed for Corosync and Pacemaker. I tried 
> > to kill the remaining process after network connection is lost but that 
> > does not prevent the fallen node from getting back the resource if it used 
> > to be holding it before going down.
> >
> > Is there a way to perform a clean shutdown if pacemaker was shutdown 
> > improperly?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Andrew Beekhof <and...@beekhof.net> wrote:
> >
> > On 24/07/2013, at 9:54 AM, Tan Tai hock <taih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > No I did not. It seems like corosync and pacemaker stop running when the 
> > > network connection is lost.
> >
> > Do you have fencing enabled?
> > If not, I'd be surprised if corosync or pacemaker stopped running.
> >
> > > I am trying to simulate a scenario whereby a node which started the 
> > > resource loses network connection and observe how it reacts upon joining 
> > > back the cluster. Is there any proper way to shutdown both corosync and 
> > > pacemaker in such scenario?
> >
> > They are not supposed to stop running just because connectivity was lost.
> >
> > >
> > > On Jul 24, 2013 6:55 AM, "Andrew Beekhof" <and...@beekhof.net> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 23/07/2013, at 11:28 AM, Tan Tai hock <taih...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have currently set up 3 machines with Pacemaker 2.3 with Corosync 
> > > > 1.19. I have tested some scenarios and have encountered some problem 
> > > > which I hope to get some advice on.
> > > >
> > > > My scenario is as follows:
> > > >
> > > > The 3 machines, name A,B,C are all running with A being the node which 
> > > > started the resource as seen in cm_mon. If I were to cut off the 
> > > > network connection for A, B will take over as the node which started 
> > > > the resource. I then resume the network connection and start both 
> > > > corosync and pacemaker on A again
> > >
> > > Did you stop it there first?
> > >
> > > > and the node which started the resource now returns to node A.
> > > > I have set stickness and perform an identical test but with proper 
> > > > shutdown of pacemaker and corosync and it is working fine.
> > > > Is there anyway to perform a clean shutdown in the event that a node 
> > > > loses network connection so that it will not attempt to take back the 
> > > > resource it used to be holding before it was uncleanly shutdown?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
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