https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2394931



--- Comment #21 from Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez 
<[email protected]> ---
(In reply to Simo Sorce from comment #20)
> (In reply to Carlos Rodriguez-Fernandez from comment #18)
> > Simo Sorce,
> > 
> > I understand the concerns but I believe there are good reasons to keep it in
> > Fedora.
> > 
> > It is a popular library that our users can use[1], and making it available
> > allows other packages depending on it to use it or even be incorporated for
> > the first time into Fedora. The version 3 in particular is already making
> > its way into other distros[2] like Alpine, Debian, Gentoo or OpenSUSE.
> > 
> > 
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botan_(programming_library)
> > [2] https://repology.org/project/botan/versions
> 
> about 1) it is here only because Thunderbird dragged it in, it is not really
> popular, and I wish it remained confined to Thunderbird, and possibly
> replaced by sequoia which does offer an RNP interface IIRC.
> 
> Other users should *not use* (if at all possible) crypto libraries that are
> not quality tested by us, do not integrate with fedora crypto policies, and
> for which I still do not have answers about TLS integration testing and
> certificate management.
> 
> Proliferation of critical security components is *not* a good thing for us.
> There is absolutely zero need for yet another implementation of TLS and all
> the cryptography when it brings no additional security, as they do not use a
> memory safe language, do not seem to have strict conformance test, nor is
> the code hardened against side channels.
> 
> In fact, as it stands, this library is a pure liability for us and it's use
> should be discouraged in Fedora, not promoted.

Simo, as far as I understand Fedora is not a development framework, ... it is a
distribution for users. How can the statement that "there must be only one
library for TLS" be a strong reason why to block any other library that does
TLS (botan doesn't just do TLS)? Does this also apply to all the other
libraries that give alternative to a functionality?


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