Here is the output for my build with after your patch. Hopefully it makes
the changes you wanted.
Starting post-processor amazon-import
==> virtualbox-ovf: Running post-processor:
amazon-import
2019/01/16 09:25:25 packer.exe: 2019/01/16 09:25:25 Found
region us-east-1
2019/01/16 09:25:25 packer.exe: 2019/01/16 09:25:25 [INFO] AWS Auth
provider use
d:
"StaticProvider"
2019/01/16
09:25:25 packer.exe: 2019/01/16 09:25:25 Rendered s3_key_name as pack
er-import-1547648263.ova
2019/01/16 09:25:25 packer.exe:
2019/01/16 09:25:25 Looking for image in artifac
t
2019/01/16 09:25:26 packer.exe: 2019/01/16 09:25:26 Opening
file output-virtualb
ox-ovf\packer-virtualbox-ovf-1547648263.ova to upload
virtualbox-ovf (amazon-import): Uploading output-virtualbox-ovf\packer-virtu
albox-ovf-1547648263.ova to s3://packertestbucket/packer-import-1547648263.ova
virtualbox-ovf (amazon-import): Completed upload of output-virtualbox-ovf\pa
cker-virtualbox-ovf-1547648263.ova to
s3://packertestbucket/packer-import-154764
8263.ova
2019/01/16 09:56:25 packer.exe: 2019/01/16 09:56:25 Calling EC2 to
import from s
3://packertestbucket/packer-import-1547648263.ova
virtualbox-ovf (amazon-import): Started import of s3://packertestbucket/pack
er-import-1547648263.ova, task id import-ami-03054a8da6b346888
virtualbox-ovf (amazon-import): Waiting for task import-ami-03054a8da6b34688
8 to complete (may
take a while)
2019/01/16 11:09:44 [INFO]
(telemetry) ending amazon-import
2019/01/16 11:09:44 Deleting original
artifact for build 'virtualbox-ovf'
2019/01/16 11:09:44 ui error: Build 'virtualbox-ovf'
errored: 1 error(s) occurre
d:
Build 'virtualbox-ovf' errored: 1 error(s) occurred:
* Post-processor failed: Import task
import-ami-03054a8da6b346888 failed with st
atus message: ClientError: No valid partitions. Not
a valid volume., error: %!s(
)
*
Post-processor failed: Import task import-ami-03054a8da6b346888 failed with st
atus message:
ClientError: No valid partitions. Not a valid volume., error: %!s(
)
2019/01/16 11:09:44 Builds completed. Waiting on
interrupt barrier...
2019/01/16 11:09:44 machine readable: error-count []string{"1"}
==> Some
builds didn't complete successfully and had errors:
2019/01/16 11:09:44 ui
error:
==> Some builds didn't complete
successfully and had errors:
2019/01/16 11:09:44 machine readable:
virtualbox-ovf,error []string{"1 error(s)
occurred:\n\n* Post-processor failed: Import task
import-ami-03054a8da6b346888 f
ailed with status message: ClientError: No valid partitions. Not
a valid volume.
, error: %!s()"}
2019/01/16 11:09:44
ui error: --> virtualbox-ovf: 1 error(s) occurred:
* Post-processor failed: Import task
import-ami-03054a8da6b346888 failed with st
atus message: ClientError: No valid partitions. Not
a valid volume., error: %!s(
)
==>
Builds finished but no artifacts were created.
2019/01/16
11:09:44 [INFO] (telemetry) Finalizing.
--> virtualbox-ovf: 1
error(s) occurred:
* Post-processor failed: Import task
import-ami-03054a8da6b346888 failed with st
atus message: ClientError: No valid partitions. Not
a valid volume., error: %!s(
)
==> Builds finished
but no artifacts were created.
2019/01/16 11:09:45 waiting for
all plugin processes to complete...
2019/01/16 11:09:45 C:\Users\Morgan
Davis\Desktop\packer.exe: plugin process exi
ted
2019/01/16 11:09:45 C:\Users\Morgan Davis\Desktop\packer.exe:
plugin process exi
ted
On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 3:37:17 PM UTC-5, Rickard von Essen wrote:
>
> I made a quick patch that should improve the error message when it fails.
> It would be great if you can test it out.
>
> packer_aws_import.zip
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vqUDMdXEDKkybiyntIcBVdR_0EOgI1Cb/view?usp=drive_web>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:22 PM Morgan Andrew Davis <[email protected]
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> Yeah it seems to be. I am currently going through a checklist of
>> prerequisites for an amazon ami that I didn't know existed till now. My
>> previous imports worked, so I didn't actually know there were things that
>> the ova being imported had to abide by. The format that the import expects
>> is by default an ova. I can set it and see if it has an effect though.
>> Thank you for your help.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 2:35:38 PM UTC-5, Rickard von Essen wrote:
>>>
>>> Some observations:
>>>
>>> 1) Packer doesn't properly report the underlaying error. We should show
>>> this:
>>> "StatusMessage": "ClientError: No valid partitions. Not a valid volume."
>>> I'll create a report an issue for that.
>>>
>>> 2) Your import fails, that is your real problem. Have you tried to set
>>> format to ova instead (seems more logical since the file is an ova).
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 7:54 PM Morgan Andrew Davis <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Using aws ec2 describe-import-image-tasks and finding the one with the
>>>> requested id yeilds:
>>>>
>>>> {
>>>> "ImportTaskId": "import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11",
>>>> "SnapshotDetails": [
>>>> {
>>>> "DiskImageSize": 1096725504.0,
>>>> "Format": "VMDK",
>>>> "Status": "completed",
>>>> "UserBucket": {
>>>> "S3Bucket": "packertestbucket",
>>>> "S3Key": "packer-import-1547570312.ova"
>>>> }
>>>> }
>>>> ],
>>>> "Status": "deleted",
>>>> "StatusMessage": "ClientError: No valid partitions. Not a
>>>> valid volume."
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 1:42:23 PM UTC-5, Rickard von Essen
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the output if you use the cli to describe the import task?
>>>>> (import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11)
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019, 19:34 Morgan Andrew Davis <[email protected]
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, seems like the 360 and 60 settings didn't work either. I'll put
>>>>>> some of the output using packer_log here. Maybe you can gleam something
>>>>>> from it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here it is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starting post-processor amazon-import
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> virtualbox-ovf: Running
>>>>>> post-processor: amazon-import
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 11:45:07
>>>>>> packer.exe: 2019/01/15 11:45:07 Found region us-east-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15
>>>>>> 11:45:07 packer.exe: 2019/01/15 11:45:07 [INFO] AWS Auth provider use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> d:
>>>>>> "StaticProvider"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 11:45:07 packer.exe: 2019/01/15 11:45:07 Rendered
>>>>>> s3_key_name as pack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> er-import-1547570312.ova
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 11:45:07 packer.exe: 2019/01/15
>>>>>> 11:45:07 Looking for image in artifac
>>>>>>
>>>>>> t
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 11:45:07
>>>>>> packer.exe: 2019/01/15 11:45:07 Opening file output-virtualb
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ox-ovf\packer-virtualbox-ovf-1547570312.ova to upload
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> virtualbox-ovf (amazon-import): Uploading
>>>>>> output-virtualbox-ovf\packer-virtu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> albox-ovf-1547570312.ova to
>>>>>> s3://packertestbucket/packer-import-1547570312.ova
>>>>>>
>>>>>> virtualbox-ovf
>>>>>> (amazon-import): Completed upload of output-virtualbox-ovf\pa
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cker-virtualbox-ovf-1547570312.ova to
>>>>>> s3://packertestbucket/packer-import-154757
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 0312.ova
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 12:16:21
>>>>>> packer.exe: 2019/01/15 12:16:21 Calling EC2 to import from s
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3://packertestbucket/packer-import-1547570312.ova
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> virtualbox-ovf (amazon-import): Started import of
>>>>>> s3://packertestbucket/pack
>>>>>>
>>>>>> er-import-1547570312.ova, task id
>>>>>> import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11
>>>>>>
>>>>>> virtualbox-ovf
>>>>>> (amazon-import): Waiting for task import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 to
>>>>>> complete (may take a while)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 [INFO] (telemetry) ending amazon-import
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 Deleting original artifact for build
>>>>>> 'virtualbox-ovf'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Build 'virtualbox-ovf' errored: 1 error(s)
>>>>>> occurred:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 ui error: Build
>>>>>> 'virtualbox-ovf' errored: 1 error(s) occurre
>>>>>>
>>>>>> d:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> Post-processor failed: Import task import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11 failed
>>>>>> with er
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ror: ResourceNotReady: failed waiting for successful resource
>>>>>> state
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Post-processor failed: Import task
>>>>>> import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11 failed with er
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ror: ResourceNotReady: failed
>>>>>> waiting for successful resource state
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44
>>>>>> Builds completed. Waiting on interrupt barrier...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15
>>>>>> 13:25:44 machine readable: error-count []string{"1"}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 ui error:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> Some builds didn't complete successfully and had errors:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 machine readable: virtualbox-ovf,error
>>>>>> []string{"1 error(s)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> occurred:\n\n* Post-processor failed: Import task
>>>>>> import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11 f
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ailed with error: ResourceNotReady: failed
>>>>>> waiting for successful resource state
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "}
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 ui error:
>>>>>> --> virtualbox-ovf: 1 error(s) occurred:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Post-processor
>>>>>> failed: Import task import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11 failed with er
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ror:
>>>>>> ResourceNotReady: failed waiting for successful resource state
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> Builds finished but no artifacts were created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> Some builds didn't complete successfully and had
>>>>>> errors:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --> virtualbox-ovf: 1 error(s) occurred:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Post-processor failed: Import
>>>>>> task import-ami-0be69e5a5077f6e11 failed with er
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ror: ResourceNotReady:
>>>>>> failed waiting for successful resource state
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> Builds
>>>>>> finished but no artifacts were created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 [INFO] (telemetry) Finalizing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 waiting for all plugin processes to
>>>>>> complete...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44 C:\Users\Morgan
>>>>>> Davis\Desktop\packer.exe: plugin process exi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ted
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2019/01/15 13:25:44
>>>>>> C:\Users\Morgan Davis\Desktop\packer.exe: plugin process exi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ted
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 10:11:10 AM UTC-5, Rickard von Essen
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some background
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://github.com/hashicorp/packer/issues/6732
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:06 PM Morgan Andrew Davis <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the current run with it doesn't work i'll run it with the
>>>>>>>> packer_log and put some output here. I appreciate your help thus far.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 9:52:47 AM UTC-5, Rickard von Essen
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you run with PACKER_LOG=1 I think you will see a line every
>>>>>>>>> time it polls AWS for the state.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:36 PM Morgan Andrew Davis <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scratch what I just posted. I grabbed the wrong file.
>>>>>>>>>> examplepacker.json is:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>> "_comment": "json comment... This file uses the virtualbox
>>>>>>>>>> builder and then feeds it into the amazon post processor. You can
>>>>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>>>>> the post processor and the builder can work by itself. May need to
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> modified to work with another source image",
>>>>>>>>>> "builders": [{
>>>>>>>>>> "type": "virtualbox-ovf",
>>>>>>>>>> "source_path": "./atomicorp-aeo-hub.ova",
>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_pty": "true",
>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_username": "root",
>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_password": "atomicorp",
>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_wait_timeout": "10000s",
>>>>>>>>>> "shutdown_command": "echo 'atomicorp' | sudo -S shutdown -P now",
>>>>>>>>>> "format": "ova"
>>>>>>>>>> }],
>>>>>>>>>> "post-processors" : [{
>>>>>>>>>> "type": "amazon-import",
>>>>>>>>>> "access_key": "",
>>>>>>>>>> "secret_key": "",
>>>>>>>>>> "region": "us-east-1",
>>>>>>>>>> "s3_bucket_name": "packertestbucket",
>>>>>>>>>> "tags": {
>>>>>>>>>> "Description": "packer/boxcutter amazon-import
>>>>>>>>>> {{timestamp}}"
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>> }]
>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>> My bad, I have a lot of files open.
>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 9:32:23 AM UTC-5, Morgan Andrew
>>>>>>>>>> Davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure. The command is export "AWS_MAX_ATTEMPTS=1000"; export
>>>>>>>>>>> "AWS_POLL_DELAY_SECONDS=10"; packer build ./examplepacker.json
>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>> examplepacker.json has the following inside:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> {
>>>>>>>>>>> "builders": [{
>>>>>>>>>>> "type": "vmware-vmx",
>>>>>>>>>>> "source_path":
>>>>>>>>>>> "./output-atomicorp-aeo-hub-vmware-iso/atomicorp-aeo-hub.vmx",
>>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_pty": "true",
>>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_username": "root",
>>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_password": "atomicorp",
>>>>>>>>>>> "ssh_wait_timeout": "10000s",
>>>>>>>>>>> "shutdown_command": "echo 'atomicorp' | sudo -S shutdown -P now",
>>>>>>>>>>> "format": "ova"
>>>>>>>>>>> }],
>>>>>>>>>>> "post-processors" : [{
>>>>>>>>>>> "type": "amazon-import",
>>>>>>>>>>> "access_key": "",
>>>>>>>>>>> "secret_key": "",
>>>>>>>>>>> "region": "us-east-1",
>>>>>>>>>>> "s3_bucket_name": "packertestbucket",
>>>>>>>>>>> "tags": {
>>>>>>>>>>> "Description": "packer/boxcutter amazon-import
>>>>>>>>>>> {{timestamp}}"
>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>> }]
>>>>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>>>> Note that I removed the access and secret key to post the rest
>>>>>>>>>>> here. I'm fairly certain that part is right and I don't need to
>>>>>>>>>>> share that
>>>>>>>>>>> since it is the company's. Is this what you wanted or did you want
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> terminal output or something else? I am going to go ahead and try
>>>>>>>>>>> and run
>>>>>>>>>>> this using the numbers you posted up top.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 9:24:28 AM UTC-5, Rickard von
>>>>>>>>>>> Essen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Could you show how how done that, you shouldn't get that if
>>>>>>>>>>>> those take effect. (I would increase the polling intervall to
>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>> larger like 60s and set the max attempts to something more sane
>>>>>>>>>>>> like 360).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 3:19 PM Morgan Andrew Davis <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello again. I was hoping someone could help me with another
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. Hopefully, this will be the last one for the current
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. When I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> am running an amazon import with packer using the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> AWS_MAX_ATTEMPTS thing I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> get an error like: ResourceNotReady: waiting for successful
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resource state.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even when I set the max attempts and the interval to something
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like 1000 and 10 it still gives me this. Does anyone have advice
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as to how
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to overcome this? I appreciate any help you can give me.
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