We are rolling dot1x out in our halls of residence over the next few months.  
The switches we are using don't really play nicely with MAB (Cisco 2950).  I 
currently have a call on hold with the PF guys, which I'm going to open up 
again once I have my live servers in, but I think the idea is to have an inline 
vlan deciding whether the device is a games console or a non-configured 
supplicant, and push it down to either a consoles vlan, or to the registration 
vlan depending.  I'm not actually sure how they are planning to implement this 
though.

Cheers,
Andi

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Holmes [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 25 April 2012 08:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Packetfence-users] gaming consoles and 802.1x auth

Jake,

I think MAC auth bypass (MAB) is the answer here - assuming your switches 
support it.  It's designed for the case you outline, ie clients with no 
supplicant.

Yes, it's possible to spoof addresses etc - but in reality, people just won't 
know how to do it or be bothered.  That's my experience anyway.

Most switches can be configured to fall back to MAB if the client has no 8012x 
supplicant, so assuming you are making everybody do 'normal' 8012x with a 
username and password, you'd probably want  do that (I assume PF supports a 
mixture of both methods?) .

Personally, we just use MAB throughout as it's much simpler for the end user 
and I'm not a fan of security at the cost of making things overly complex for 
users - there should be a balance.

Note:-one disadvantage I've found when using MAB is you can only have one 
device connected per port - at least, that's the case with HP/3Com gear as far 
as I can work out.

Hope that helps,

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Sallee, Stephen (Jake) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 25 April 2012 04:24
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Packetfence-users] gaming consoles and 802.1x auth

We are about to roll out 802.1x auth on our wireless network, and more 
importantly possibly on our wired network as well.



For those using 802.1x authentication how do you handle gaming consoles?  It 
seems that ALL of the console makers have left out support for 802.1x (an 
idiotic move, IMHO).  The only thing we have come up with so far is to somehow 
whitelist the MAC of the device but that is HORRIBLE from a security standpoint 
since it is so easy to spoof a MAC.



I would greatly appreciate any feedback / thoughts.



Jake Sallee

Godfather of Bandwidth

System Engineer

University of Mary Hardin-Baylor

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