Hi Derek,

> Everything is possible, we just need to take the time to do it ! Sure 
thing is that modifications to fit a
> particular use case may be more difficult to port on upgrade compared 
to a vanilla installation without customization.
> One thing tho is that we try to make all the customization on a 
configuration land… That way, the codebase
> is not impacted but that is not always possible (even if I just said 
that everything is possible ;))

Herein lines my conundrum. If we migrate from our own solution to 
another, I don't want to break the new solution and make 
upgrades difficult. The main reason I'm considering migrating is to move 
to something that is constantly being developed, whereas 
we've got a bit stale with our own development.

We totally appreciate that no commercial or public solution is going to 
match exactly our workflow, but at the same time we've 
got staff who've used the currently solution for 10+ years who we will 
need to retrain, so trying to minimise the change in the 
workflow will aid in a successful adoption of an alternative solution 
from their perspective.

> What do you mean by “add/delete VLANs as a tenant comes and goes” ?
> Regarding the individual user account for each device being signed 
into that VLAN, PacketFence assign a
> user account for each device being signed in on the network since it 
is the purpose of the NAC. We can limit
> the number of device per user account used to register a device.

In the current solution we have allocated 20 VLANs in the config that 
can be used. Vlan 220-239. As a new tenant comes into the 
facility, the user "Adds a VLAN", which selects the next 
available/unused vlan id. Once the VLAN has been created (used), they 
can then add user accounts to that vlan, which the tenants will then use 
to authorise their devices from the logon vlan into 
their respective tenancy vlan.

When a tenant leaves, we delete the vlan - which really only removes all 
devices from the vlan (and database). 

There's no reason why those 20 VLANs couldn't always be active, and as a 
tenant comes in we just say "VLAN 220 is owned by Client 
XYZ" somewhere in the system, so staff can quickly identify who is what.

> Since it is your very own custom developed app, it sure does exactly 
what you want it to do. The PacketFence
> web GUI doesn’t behave that way tho. We are listing all the devices 
that have been seen on the different
> networks PacketFence manage and allow the admin to query the info for 
these devices.

Is it possible to create a new view that displays all devices, and their 
user details (combined) in a particular VLAN (for 
example) ?

> The registration workflow is almost the same. It is also, very easy to 
customize to fits your needs.

Is it also possible to make some of the fields when creating a user NOT 
needed? ie: the registration window, the expiry date and 
the email address field? We won't know WHO the user account is being 
used by - it's just randomly assigned. As for the expiry and 
registration fields, we would deregister the accounts as we are advised 
the person (device) leaves the network, or when we 
decommission the entire vlan (tenant).

> Like said before, modifications are fairly easy to do. Sure thing, it 
will have to be ported on upgrades…
> Modifications to the registration workflow is something we usually see 
at all client sites.
> Modifications to the web GUI is less frequent and may require a little 
bit more work.
> 
> I think the best way for you to see how PacketFence behave and if it 
can fits your needs would be to give it a try,
> which is fairly easy by spinning a ZEN appliance.
> http://www.packetfence.org/download/zen.html

We're running PacketFence side by side in our test lab so we can get a 
feel for it, which is why we've come up with these 
queries. :)

Just to paint a visual picture, here are some screenshots from our 
existing solution

Display all active VLANs page: 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/xners400x54hui8/vlans-display-page.png?dl=0
Display devices registered within an active VLAN (registered users use a 
u/p to register their device; manual devices are 
typically printers that we see in the logon vlan and manually assign to 
a vlan): https://www.dropbox.com/s/jf5ka4qlpsn7ajk/vlan-
devices-page.png?dl=0
Create a new VLAN page: https://www.dropbox.com/s/oamrl4qdkupdlaz/new-
vlan-page.png?dl=0

As mentioned, the process of creating a VLAN is really not that 
important. More so is the ability to create a view that displays 
all users/devices in a specific VLAN. I know I can do a filtered search, 
where the role is the vlan id (we're using this in our 
test facility), but some users may struggle with this extra step.

Thanks for your feedback :)


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