Dieter Plaetinck wrote:
On Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:15:10 +1000
Allan McRae <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I have been thinking about optdepends and if we can improve the
handling of them. So, given I am better at making wiki pages than
patches...
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/User:Allan/Pacman_OptDepends
What do people think about this idea? Are there other sensible
additions to that proposal?
I know that optdepends were originally for getting rid of
informational messages but I have some packages on my system that are
installed "explicitly" when they are really (opt)deps for other
packages.
Allan
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Some good suggestions.
1) Re: "optdepends are not orphans unless a flag is specified".
Maybe you could also just show the listing of all
"orphans" (including optdeps) and next to it add something like
"(optdep for package foo, bar)" where appropriate.
I would like a way of separating them because I think it is quite common
to do a "pacman -Rs $(pacman -Qqtd)". Well, at least it is for as I
install anything I test with "--asdep". I have changed that a bit as
the stuff in brackets should not be printed with the -Qq flag.
2) I would really like a way to just "list all installed optdeps". that
way. if you want to "clone" all installed packages to another system,
you just need the list of installed packages and a list of the optdeps.
(if you like the idea from the previous point, I can use that and just
grep on optdep and I'm happy). Or maybe even one list of all explicit
packages, with next to them their installed optdeps.
Well, I think in my proposal "pacman -Qtd --optdep | grep optdepend |
cut -f1 -d' '", or something like that would work for this.
3)Re: "optdepends can be removed with -Rs"
isn't this just the consequence of optdeps being installed with --asdep?
Sort of. It is mainly a consequence of pacman recognizing them as a
dependency of the parent package, but --asdep of course plays a part.
Feel free to add comments to the wiki page. I made it primarily for
brainstorming.
Allan
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