On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Thomas Dziedzic <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Dan McGee <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > On 06/23/2011 04:19 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: >> >> >> >> I would like to bring up a point which has been annoying me for a while >> >> and >> >> I would like to get it out there. >> >> >> >> I will argue that the changelog feature is unnecessary in >> >> pacman/PKGBUILDs. >> >> >> >> 1.) It's a feature rarely used by anyone, e.g. there are changelogs >> which >> >> exist which haven't been updated in years which I encounter and remove >> >> right >> >> away. >> >> >> >> 2.)Svn log usually serves the same purpose, and I can not think of any >> >> benefits changelogs provide over svn log. >> >> >> >> 3.)I can not think of one package I have encountered that included a >> >> useful >> >> changelog. >> >> >> >> Some ways to go about removing it are: >> >> declare deprecated -> remove after some time >> >> or just remove changelog support right away >> >> The last option might be viable given its small audience. >> >> >> > +1 for all the reasons you stated. >> > >> > I favor removing changelog right away. >> >> So confused. Should we remove deltas too? And support for bz2/xz >> packages and databases? >> > > Deltas have a future use, I would be crazy to suggest that we should remove > them. There is nothing that could replace deltas easily. > I would be even more crazy to suggest removing xz pkg support as we are > currently using this format in all the packages. There is especially nothing > that could replace this. > > >> Why on earth would we remove a feature that someone might use, even if >> Arch is not making extensive use of it? This is incredibly >> shortsighted. > > > I just want to bring this up because there is an alternative method (svn > log) which I think works just as well if not better.
Sure, but this is Arch specific. I obviously had no intention of removing delta, xz, etc. but my point is the changelog functionality is exactly the same- it is a tool to use, but not something to be removed if it is not used. -Dan
