Hi Patrick,

Sorry for the slow response time but I have been busy lately with different
life ventures :) I am interested in this project especially the XULRunner
wxWebConnect. How do we start then?

Regards,
Ahmad

On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Patrick Donelan <[email protected]> wrote:

> I've been following up with Ryan Jendoubi about the Wx::Perl::WebKit
> project he worked on <http://gitorious.org/wx-perl-webkit> for last year's
> GSoC as I'd really love <http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/802> to be
> able to embed webkit inside of Padre. Does anyone have
> interest/skills/tuits/suggestions to help move this along?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Patrick
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Ryan Jendoubi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Hi Patrick,
>>
>> Good to hear from you.
>>
>> The project, such as it is, is up at http://gitorious.org/wx-perl-webkit. 
>> (Sorry it's in a bit of a state - repo management, like pretty much
>> everything else I did on the project, was completely new to me, and kinda
>> still is). After the end of last year's GSoC I've somehow got distracted,
>> although I've been preparing recently to try to go back to it.
>>
>> I'm afraid it's not really ready to ship. Last I checked there was a
>> problem in the GNOME rendering in the wx upstream which was a bit
>> embarrassing. Also I remember there was an issue with wxWebKit being an
>> MSVC-only build on Windows, which I *think* put it in conflict with
>> Strawberry? I can't honestly remember if that ever got straightened out. The
>> maintainer was quite open to the idea of patches to make it mingw
>> compatible, and that's something else I would like to look at, but honestly
>> I wouldn't know where to start (although he said that for pretty much anyone
>> it would be a semi-mechanical process of compile -> fail -> fix -> repeat).
>>
>> I never looked into it, but a possible alternative might be wxWebConnect
>> [0], which as of five months ago at least seemed to offer several big
>> advantages:
>>
>> 1) XULRunner is loaded dynamically at run time.[1] I'm not sure if this
>> means you can use the version present on a user's machine, or if it just
>> means you don't have to link it with your program so avoid a lot of
>> potential grief there. Come to think of it, I'm not sure how this 'benefit'
>> would mirrored over to Perl in practice...
>> 2) It seems to be presented / backed by a Company, which even if they only
>> have one go-to guy dedicated to the project, might well offer more support
>> than the one go-to guy there is on wxWebKit, sans Company.[2]
>> 3) Because it's XULRunner, you can embed plugins in your applications. Who
>> knows what the tradeoffs between using an existing plugin and manipulating
>> the DOM directly with Perl. Suppose it depends on how nice the API is to
>> use.
>> 4) Again since it's Moz, I'd be surprised if it was tied to MS compilers
>> on Windows.
>>
>> Of course, the downside is someone would have to do the bindings from
>> scratch. If you have a look at my project though, you might decide that you
>> might as well start from scratch >.> Considering the potential benefits of
>> wxWebConnect.
>>
>> As to skills: perl, c++, xs, xspp, perldb, gdb. But don't let any of those
>> put anyone off, as none of these are skills I would claim to have :-p
>>
>> Since I can't commit to definitely doing any amount of work improving
>> wxWebKit or starting on wxWebConnect in the coming weeks I'm not really much
>> help to you, but I am full of Interest and Good Will, and am certainly up
>> for answering queries about my project, if I can remember wth I was doing at
>> any given point. At least it works better than the Wx::WebKit [3] module on
>> CPAN from 2006, ey?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> -- Ryan
>>
>>
>>
>> [0]
>> http://groups.google.com/group/wx-users/browse_thread/thread/d088dc08bb9d8f64/5c5b386f465889b4?#5c5b386f465889b4
>> [1]
>> http://groups.google.com/group/wx-users/browse_thread/thread/d088dc08bb9d8f64/24be38815506ad3b?#24be38815506ad3b
>> [2] kollivier is friendly and a great help on wxWebKit, but it could
>> really use more contributors coming from the C++ end of things. Asking about
>> it in either #wxwidgets or #webkit generally results in blank stares and
>> advice that you should probably ask that kollivier guy, he's the guy that
>> does that. Unlike some other toolkit bindings, wxWebKit tests are no longer
>> officially part of the WebKit project, so it breaks more often than e.g.
>> QtWebKet. As of five months ago kollivier was planning to get certain
>> ickiness cleared up and then try to get piggybacked on Chrome development -
>> not sure if that ever went ahead.
>> [3] 
>> http://search.cpan.org/~dsugal/Wx-WebKit-0.02/lib/Wx/WebKit.pm<http://search.cpan.org/%7Edsugal/Wx-WebKit-0.02/lib/Wx/WebKit.pm>
>>
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